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Old 03-12-13, 06:08 PM   #1
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Panniers

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I am getting ready to buy my first set here. I am not sure which ones to get cause of material that they are made of. thanks for your insight.

http://www.rei.com/product/784042/or...9-001b2166c2c0

http://www.bikebagshop.com/ortlieb-b...c5548_a_7c1747

http://www.bikebagshop.com/vaude-dis...FcZFMgoddjIA3g

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Old 03-12-13, 06:13 PM   #2
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Well there are Cotton Canvas bags , and there are Synthetic fabric Bags ,

which way do you fall on that divide?

The 2 you list are both Ortlieb , they are entirely synthetics.
just one is a PVC tarpaulin like material. they originally produced just those, 'Classic'

Now they have a custom fabric made for them.

Plus, a Cordura nylon outer-face with a thick coating on the inside
that is also used in the bonding of them together.

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Old 03-12-13, 06:43 PM   #3
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Well there are Cotton Canvas bags , and there are Synthetic fabric Bags ,

which way do you fall on that divide?

The 2 you list are both Ortlieb , they are entirely synthetics.
just one is a PVC tarpaulin like material. they originally produced just those, 'Classic'

Now they have a custom fabric made for them.

Plus, a Cordura nylon outer-face with a thick coating on the inside
that is also used in the bonding of them together.
I forgot to add the third pannier. this is my first touring experience with the sun / rain/ critters ...... you guys that went through a set or two might have some insight that I have not thought about. the third ong looks like the tabs where the staps go through looks like it would rip and with 110 degrees beating down......
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I started with an inexpensive set from Mountain Equipment Co-op, the Canadian equivalent of REI. They worked well enough but were a bit clunky and not waterproof. I then switched to a Orlieb Bike Packer Set from TheTouringStore.com. They have been fantastic. They are waterproof and very sturdy and fit beautifully on my bike racks.
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I started with an inexpensive set from Mountain Equipment Co-op, the Canadian equivalent of REI. They worked well enough but were a bit clunky and not waterproof. I then switched to a Orlieb Bike Packer Set from TheTouringStore.com. They have been fantastic. They are waterproof and very sturdy and fit beautifully on my bike racks.
which ones did you buy ? yeah I want to buy the best.I dont want to be in the middle of no where saying to my self " I wished I wouild have bought the other ones"
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My wife and I we are on our 4th set of panniers. We replaced bar bags, panniers, and rack packs as gear either wore out or there was something that we really did not like,e.g., wet clothes. Now we are 100% Ortlieb. My wife has and prefers the Packer Plus panniers, and I the Roller Classics. We started the conversion a little over 6 years ago, and are really glad we did. There are other good brands available, but I can only vouch for the Ortlieb products. My rear panniers, my first Ortlieb purchase in 2007, have almost 10,000 miles on them since I got them. Not many of those miles were easy miles. The only issue I had was losing one of the little clip sizing inserts on my front pannier that match the mounting clip to the diameter of the rack tubing. It was not a big deal, as it was easily replaced at the first opportunity.

The Touring Store is a good place to check out. Great prices, excellent customer service, and Wayne, the owner, is very knowledgeable. http://www.thetouringstore.com/

There have been many "pannier discussions" on this forum. You might want to do a search and see what else has been said. I'm biased

Front and Backroller Classics, with Ortlieb Rack Pack and bar bag.


My front pannier after a high speed encounter with a tall curb The damage is cosmetic, and the bag is still water tight.


My wife has a pair of Packer Plus front panniers she uses on the rear rack for lighter tours, and commuting. She rode across the U.S. with these. One advantage to the Packer Plus series is that you can get the optional security cables for them. They are very lightweight cables that might discourage the opportunistic pannier thief. The down side to the Packer Plus material is that the red on my wife's bags has faded quite a bit due to UV exposure. But that is with 6 years of touring,commuting to work, and countless store and post office runs.


Ortlieb panniers are water proof. This is the Packer Plus rear pannier. She wanted a little more capacity.


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the third ong looks like the tabs where the staps go through looks like it would rip and with 110 degrees beating down......
All of these panniers have been through 109 F/ 43 C temps with everything intact. Also one of my front panniers was dragged about 30 feet my a marauding raccoon. I guess that qualifies as a "critter test"

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I have had all three types that fietsbob mentioned. They all work. My current touring rig has the Ortliiebs like Doug64 is using. They are waterproof and don't have many pockets which works just fine for me. I also have Carradice waxed cotton bags, they work fine too. I have had cordura nylon bags in the past, they would leak at the seams occasionally, the one pair I had were designed with a bunch of pockets, that did not work for me. All of the bags you listed are good bags. If you are like a lot of us you will go through a couple of sets before you find the ones you prefer, or you may get lucky and hit it off on the first go.

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Personally I use Vaude panniers. My rear pair are a model older than in the link, but I have a set of the newer front panniers. I like them better than Ortlieb. They are similarly waterproof but give rather easier access, imo. In particular I like having an external pocket for stuff I want to access quickly, or might need to lay my hands on when it's pouring with rain.

I've used the rear pair for years and many thousands of miles. They look a bit battered but are still waterproof.
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I have the front and rear Ortlieb roller classics and am very happy with the durability, waterproofness and the ease with which they attach to the frame. I do wish Ortlieb would incorporate at least one outside pocket on the classics. I guess that is what the handlebar bag is for. A friend of mine thinks Arkel make a superior pannier. I have never tried them so I don't know. I also have had a cheap set from Performance which are actually decent panniers. They have a less convenient attachment system but they are durable and for the money not a bad buy.
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Ortlieb Classic Rollers are the gold standard for panniers -- durable, waterproof, easy to install and remove, hold a lot of gear, and relatively inexpensive considering their virtues. They also come in all sorts of colors. Easy to resell if you decide that you don't like them, which is unlikely.
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which ones did you buy ? yeah I want to buy the best.I dont want to be in the middle of no where saying to my self " I wished I wouild have bought the other ones"
As a combined Father's Day/Birthday present I got TheTouringStore Ortlieb Matched Set No. 1. This gave me everything I needed for the type of touring I do, which tends to be a month or more of cycling and camping. I chose to buy a matched set but if they are too much the store sells smaller sets or individual packs as well. I did a cross Canada trip last year and the one thing I could always count on were my packs. With the matched set I got the outside pockets which proved very useful. Fuel and other iffy things went in one pocket, snacks went in another.

I did not get the roller panniers, I prefer the flip top type. The fabric they use is very durable.

Go on the company site and check them out. The site answers many of the typical questions. I even phoned to make sure I had all the answers I needed.
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