Which Topeak morph pump?
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Which Topeak morph pump?
I'm firmly in the pump camp for now and have heard great things about the Topeak morph line but there are three in contention, the road morph G, the turbo road morph and the mountain morph. I'll be using it for both my roadie with 25mm tires and my tourer/adventure bike with 37mm tires. I'm thinking the mountain version might be higher volume for the fatter tires while the road versions better at higher volume. I get more flats on my road bike and put more miles on it so I'd give it a higher priority on the usage scale.My planet bike mini isn't up to the task.
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Whichever one that acts the closest to a mini floor pump. The Road Morph G looks the part.
I got the Axiom Enforceair Pro (which probably is superceded by the HV and HP models now). I had no problems pumping 32c right up to 80psi.
I'd say try the road morph G, see if you can pump the 37 comfortably. If you get frustrated using it at home, you'll hate it when you're trying to pump it up in the rain.
I got the Axiom Enforceair Pro (which probably is superceded by the HV and HP models now). I had no problems pumping 32c right up to 80psi.
I'd say try the road morph G, see if you can pump the 37 comfortably. If you get frustrated using it at home, you'll hate it when you're trying to pump it up in the rain.
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I have the Road Morph G and love it. I mostly use it on 700c x 25-38 tires, but occasionally use it on 26" tires.
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I'm firmly in the pump camp for now and have heard great things about the Topeak morph line but there are three in contention, the road morph G, the turbo road morph and the mountain morph. I'll be using it for both my roadie with 25mm tires and my tourer/adventure bike with 37mm tires. I'm thinking the mountain version might be higher volume for the fatter tires while the road versions better at higher volume. I get more flats on my road bike and put more miles on it so I'd give it a higher priority on the usage scale.My planet bike mini isn't up to the task.
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I'm firmly in the pump camp for now and have heard great things about the Topeak morph line but there are three in contention, the road morph G, the turbo road morph and the mountain morph. I'll be using it for both my roadie with 25mm tires and my tourer/adventure bike with 37mm tires. I'm thinking the mountain version might be higher volume for the fatter tires while the road versions better at higher volume. I get more flats on my road bike and put more miles on it so I'd give it a higher priority on the usage scale.My planet bike mini isn't up to the task.
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I had a couple of Topeak Morphs but ended up giving them away. You might want to consider this pump from Leyzne. It has a gage, hose, and works like a mini floor pump (including a fold down foot peg). I've had no problem using it to get 110 psi in 23mm tires and 60 psi in 2" tires (thought the high volume version, HVG, is better suited for the latter).
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You would probably regret it if you got a high volume low pressure mountain bike pump and tried to use it on skinny road tires. I have tried to pump up a high pressure tubular tire with a pump that was too large in diameter, it was virtually impossible to get the pressures I was looking for. But if you get a low volume high pressure road pump and use it on a mountain or fatter tire touring bike, the only downside is that it would take an extra minute or two to pump up the tire.
In other words, get the road pump, Road Morph G. My Road Morph G works just fine on skinny tires and it works well on 2.0 inch wide mountain bike tires too.
Lezyne Micro Floor Drive with gauge is another good pump in similar price range. I have both the Lezyne and the Road Morph G. If your local store has both, compare them in the store.
In other words, get the road pump, Road Morph G. My Road Morph G works just fine on skinny tires and it works well on 2.0 inch wide mountain bike tires too.
Lezyne Micro Floor Drive with gauge is another good pump in similar price range. I have both the Lezyne and the Road Morph G. If your local store has both, compare them in the store.
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37mm tires aren't all that high volume. The Mountain Morph works better for tire with real volume, like 2" and greater. While the Turbo looks okay, I'd be afraid of the fold out pressure gauge. It looks like something that could come loose or get damaged. The Road Morph G is a small tight package without any extraneous bits. It'll do the job. Mine has for around 15 years now.
I think you have your model names backward. I currently own 3 (one with the gauge and the longer one). One for each bike and one on the repair shelf if I can ever find my rebuild kit that I ordered. I have never had a problem with the gauges. They work great. The seal eventually wears out but that would be pretty much any pump. Taking them into dusty environments like a crushed limestone doesn't help matters.
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I've used a Roadmorph G for years. The gauge is pretty worthless. Worked ok when new when I took the trouble to read the darn thing. Stops registering at 60 lbs now. I'm not too picky about pressure as long as it passes my pinch test.
The pump is great.
The pump is great.
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I own both a Road Morph G and a Turbo Morph G (= Mountain Morph + gauge). Honestly, there's not much to separate the two. The Turbo Morph has a slightly larger diameter, but it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference when inflating 700x35 touring tires or 26x1.95" mountain bike tires. I'm sure you probably save yourself a few strokes with the Turbo Morph, but not enough for me to really notice. I find the handle of the Road Morph slightly more agreeable than the handle on the Turbo Morph. The Turbo Morph is noticeably more bulky than the Road Morph. I tend to carry the Road Morph on my touring and road bikes, while the Turbo Morph only gets used with the mountain bike.
Edit: both the Road Morph and Turbo Morph work better than my Lezyne Pressure Drive pump. It's an interesting design and well-made. It's also a bit fiddly, since the hose must be screwed, rather than clamped, to the valve stem. I find it fairly tiring to use, since you can't brace it against the ground like you can with the Morph pumps.
Edit: both the Road Morph and Turbo Morph work better than my Lezyne Pressure Drive pump. It's an interesting design and well-made. It's also a bit fiddly, since the hose must be screwed, rather than clamped, to the valve stem. I find it fairly tiring to use, since you can't brace it against the ground like you can with the Morph pumps.
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Agreed. The gauge just seems to be peace of mind for some. Pinch test FTW.
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I think you have your model names backward. I currently own 3 (one with the gauge and the longer one). One for each bike and one on the repair shelf if I can ever find my rebuild kit that I ordered. I have never had a problem with the gauges. They work great. The seal eventually wears out but that would be pretty much any pump. Taking them into dusty environments like a crushed limestone doesn't help matters.
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I haven't managed to break the gauge on my Turbo Morph, but I did break the plastic clip right below it that keeps the pump head from flopping around within a couple of days of acquiring the pump The gauge itself seems relatively solid and is somewhat reluctant to flip out. If you exercise a little care, I don't think the gauge will be a problem...
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Only if you can actually see. I ride with my contacts (I am very nearsighted). I used to have no issue seeing close up with them but as the years go by it is getting more difficult to see that little gauge. One thing I don't like about the gauge is it tends to jump or snap in position as pressure increases. It does not seem to be a smooth transition.
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+1 I use the Road Morph with the gauge. Another advantage to the longer one is that you don't have to stoop over quite so far as with the mountain one. Moot for me anyway, as although I'm running 26 inch tires, I'm running them at 75 and 90-100 PSI and have to get the Airzoundz up to 120 PSI. The only thing I don't like about the Road Morph is that after two years it stopped working. I'm hoping that the new seal kit in the mail will solve that. I've heard from at least one other user that theirs died a similar death. They took advantage of REI's old return policy to replace theirs.
Unless someone else makes one with a foot and a gauge that'll go to 120 PSI, the Road Morph fits the bill for me. Luckily I rather like it.
Edit: the linked Lezyne Micro Floor Drive just might fit the bill for me, it sounds like the head screws on to the tubes valve though? That sounds like a PITA.
I will admit to the gauge on the Road Morph being hard to read. It'd be nicer if they just picked one type of reading and made it a little bigger or clearer. I grew up on PSI but the conversion to atmospheres or bar pretty easily. Why they included both I'll never know, the difference between them is negligable, especially for our purposes. I wonder if there is an aftermarket gauge than can be retrofitted instead?
Unless someone else makes one with a foot and a gauge that'll go to 120 PSI, the Road Morph fits the bill for me. Luckily I rather like it.
Edit: the linked Lezyne Micro Floor Drive just might fit the bill for me, it sounds like the head screws on to the tubes valve though? That sounds like a PITA.
I will admit to the gauge on the Road Morph being hard to read. It'd be nicer if they just picked one type of reading and made it a little bigger or clearer. I grew up on PSI but the conversion to atmospheres or bar pretty easily. Why they included both I'll never know, the difference between them is negligable, especially for our purposes. I wonder if there is an aftermarket gauge than can be retrofitted instead?
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Unless someone else makes one with a foot and a gauge that'll go to 120 PSI, the Road Morph fits the bill for me. Luckily I rather like it.
Edit: the linked Lezyne Micro Floor Drive just might fit the bill for me, it sounds like the head screws on to the tubes valve though? That sounds like a PITA.
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Unless someone else makes one with a foot and a gauge that'll go to 120 PSI, the Road Morph fits the bill for me. Luckily I rather like it.
Edit: the linked Lezyne Micro Floor Drive just might fit the bill for me, it sounds like the head screws on to the tubes valve though? That sounds like a PITA.
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The two pumps are quite different and each has advantages.
- Advantages of the Lezyne = it is smaller, lighter weight, less plastic and more metal, longer hose.
- Advantages of the Road Morph G = slightly longer stroke thus it moves more air per stroke, larger handle to push against when you are pumping at high pressure, the smaller Lezyne handle slightly hurts my hand.
A lot of Toppeak pump owners (including me) have had to buy a new rebuild kit because the stupid little knurled piece on the pump head unthreaded and got lost. I have even seen new pumps in the store were it had fallen off before the pump got to the shelf. Toppeak told me it was not a warranty issue, they said I had to buy a full rebuild kit - and pay a steep shipping fee for that. I have not had any experience with Lezyne customer service (a statement that by itself is a certain amount of endorsement), but my experience with Toppeak customer service was less than positive.
If they have both in the store, I suggest you compare them and decide which to buy. If the store will let you try pumping up a tire with each, that is part of the comparison process.
I actually use a Zefal bracket that is threaded to my bottle cage screws with either pump, I do not use the Toppeak or Lezyne brackets. The Zefal bracket is sized for a larger diameter pump, I have a short piece of innertube on the pump where it goes on the bracket.
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I use the Road Morph G and really like it. During a recent move, the floor pump got packed up and disappeared, so it doubled as my primary pump. I can also vouch for its usefulness as a charging-dog deterrent!
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It only takes an extra minute to screw on the chuck. But, if you have removable valve cores, tighten them in the valve stem first. Otherwise the removable cores might unthread with the Lezyne.
The two pumps are quite different and each has advantages.
- Advantages of the Lezyne = it is smaller, lighter weight, less plastic and more metal, longer hose.
- Advantages of the Road Morph G = slightly longer stroke thus it moves more air per stroke, larger handle to push against when you are pumping at high pressure, the smaller Lezyne handle slightly hurts my hand.
A lot of Toppeak pump owners (including me) have had to buy a new rebuild kit because the stupid little knurled piece on the pump head unthreaded and got lost. I have even seen new pumps in the store were it had fallen off before the pump got to the shelf. Toppeak told me it was not a warranty issue, they said I had to buy a full rebuild kit - and pay a steep shipping fee for that. I have not had any experience with Lezyne customer service (a statement that by itself is a certain amount of endorsement), but my experience with Topeak customer service was less than positive.
If they have both in the store, I suggest you compare them and decide which to buy. If the store will let you try pumping up a tire with each, that is part of the comparison process.
I actually use a Zefal bracket that is threaded to my bottle cage screws with either pump, I do not use the Toppeak or Lezyne brackets. The Zefal bracket is sized for a larger diameter pump, I have a short piece of innertube on the pump where it goes on the bracket.
The two pumps are quite different and each has advantages.
- Advantages of the Lezyne = it is smaller, lighter weight, less plastic and more metal, longer hose.
- Advantages of the Road Morph G = slightly longer stroke thus it moves more air per stroke, larger handle to push against when you are pumping at high pressure, the smaller Lezyne handle slightly hurts my hand.
A lot of Toppeak pump owners (including me) have had to buy a new rebuild kit because the stupid little knurled piece on the pump head unthreaded and got lost. I have even seen new pumps in the store were it had fallen off before the pump got to the shelf. Toppeak told me it was not a warranty issue, they said I had to buy a full rebuild kit - and pay a steep shipping fee for that. I have not had any experience with Lezyne customer service (a statement that by itself is a certain amount of endorsement), but my experience with Topeak customer service was less than positive.
If they have both in the store, I suggest you compare them and decide which to buy. If the store will let you try pumping up a tire with each, that is part of the comparison process.
I actually use a Zefal bracket that is threaded to my bottle cage screws with either pump, I do not use the Toppeak or Lezyne brackets. The Zefal bracket is sized for a larger diameter pump, I have a short piece of innertube on the pump where it goes on the bracket.
I also found that that the rubber grommet on the Topeaks tend to wear out easily and lose their ability to hold a seal. But you can get extras; you just need to find the shop that will give them to you for free and not charge you $5.
I don't have removable valve stems, so the unscrewing isn't a problem except when everyone else wants to borrow my pump because it otherwise works so well.
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Don't hesitate to use a touch of plumbers tape on the threads of the Morph valve head end where that knurled ring screws on, and also, the same tape works great if your valve core stem does come out on your tube. Manufacturers don't always tell you if the the valve core is threaded or not and the way things are sourced these days, you might get a surprise like I did a while back when one did come apart. Luckily I was at home, but a little plumbers tape weighs nothing and takes up no space and sometimes can save the day on the road.
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Don't hesitate to use a touch of plumbers tape on the threads of the Morph valve head end where that knurled ring screws on, and also, the same tape works great if your valve core stem does come out on your tube. Manufacturers don't always tell you if the the valve core is threaded or not and the way things are sourced these days, you might get a surprise like I did a while back when one did come apart. Luckily I was at home, but a little plumbers tape weighs nothing and takes up no space and sometimes can save the day on the road.