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    Velo Orange "Camargue" (N+!)

    So I think I really like the VO Camargue: http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013...e-is-here.html

    I think this could be my N+1 !. Looks like one heck of a stout touring bike. I even like the color and the fork crown is cool as are the drop outs.
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    I have the Campeur, which they claim this new bike is based on. The Campeur is such a solid frame, and a lively ride for the geometry and frame style. If this bike is anything like the Campeur, it'll be great.

    Also in this bike, they've done away with the biggest complaint about the Campeur, which is the threaded headset.

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    I am highly considering the Carmargue also. I think it would replace actually several of my bikes with just one bike. I was wondering what others thought about it. I am glad to read the Campeur is still a lively feel. That's something i am sort of looking for also.

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    I am very interested in the Camargue, as well. I want a canti-compatible bike that will take 29'er tires that looks like a regular bike instead of a mountain bike. Depending on the final geometry the Camargue might be just the ticket. The few stats they've published so far (BB drop 70mm, Chainstay length 460mm) are right on the money so hopefully they don't put on a ridiculously long top-tube or give it a crazily slack seat-tube (56cm & 73 degrees would be ideal for me and given the geometry of their other bikes, these seem likely).
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    Personally find the seat tube angle of 72 or less is better with a Brooks. It doesn't make any sense to adopt the standard 73 degree angle if the bike doesn't need an offset seat post, and the main saddle choice has minimal rail adjustment. All assuming one is trying to preserve the cockpit position that one typically uses on a 73 degree road bike. So in other words if it's 73, they missed an opportunity, but it will obviously be fine, and if they go to 72, it will just be that much better.

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    It's funny, I was really looking forward to this as my next around town/kid puller/camping bike, but lately I'm thinking of the Campeur instead. I don't need the single-speedability of the Camargue (since I have my Cross Check), and I really don't need the tire clearance, and I like the threaded headset on the Campeur (please don't start that debate again). Now I'm just kind of waiting to see if the Campeurs go on sale when this comes out.
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    I actually had my hands on one of these completely built up. I am lucky enough to be able to drive to the Velo-Orange shop in Annapolis Md. I was in there last week and this bike was there built up with an 8-speed Alfine rear hub. The thing is awesome. Chris and the crew are first rate at what they do. They are strict cycling freaks and they have some awesome stuff available. It's built like a tank so it will be great for Bikepacking or touring.

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    The Camargue certainly seems like the ideal frame for me, touring or long distance commuting, here in austin, tx.
    I use lots of trail systems and creek system trails that aren't really mtn bike (suspension) necessary, but still a long cry from smooth pavement.
    The bike looks great as well, timeless.
    Remarkably similar, in the end, to my '97 steel trek mtn frame with surly LHT forks, racks, crazy bars, schwalbe big apples (ben's), etc.

    Planning to build up one of these Camargue's as well.
    Really like those wonderfully weird bars shown on their site…..
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    Those are some serious chain stays on that middle bronze one. Have any idea how long those are?

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    This bike is beautiful. Does anyone know what these bars are called?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch. View Post
    This bike is beautiful. Does anyone know what these bars are called?
    It looks a bit like a cut Jones H-bar
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
    It looks a bit like a cut Jones H-bar
    Doing a little more digging, it appears that the bar above is a new bar from Velo Orange that they haven't listed yet. And you guys went stealing pictures without attribution
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    Quote Originally Posted by AusTexMurf View Post
    They look so comfortable. I am glad to hear they will be available to the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
    Doing a little more digging, it appears that the bar above is a new bar from Velo Orange that they haven't listed yet. And you guys went stealing pictures without attribution
    I'm sure that V-O is going to get mad at BF because of all the free publicity we're providing for its bike (and handlebar) . . . . .

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    The bars working name is the "crazy bar" It's supposed to be available this month or next. See: http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013...-it-weird.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
    I'm sure that V-O is going to get mad at BF because of all the free publicity we're providing for its bike (and handlebar) . . . . .
    Yeah, reposted from the link to their page just above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medic Zero View Post
    Yeah, reposted from the link to their page just above.

    The gall of you people!
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    those crazy bars are interesting and I understand them better after reading the blog a bit but I think i'd prefer to stick with my titec/jones bars, the bullhorns would give the feel of hoods but I like how the titec/jones hook inward so the further you go forward the closer together your hands get... either way you get a clusterfluck of cables which make traditional bar bags difficult although it looks more doable on the VO bar
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
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    I got it.
    Point taken and agreed.

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    Final geometry for all models is now available:

    http://support.velo-orange.com/#camargue.html
    Currently riding a 1983 Takara Highlander converted to a single-speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corwin1968 View Post
    Final geometry for all models is now available:

    http://support.velo-orange.com/#camargue.html
    For those of you looking at VO bikes (this or any other) I have to say I am impressed at how nicely put together the frame is on my Campeur. Great paint and welds. The bike also rides very nice on my 35 mm Schwalbe Supremes..
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    Quote Originally Posted by corwin1968 View Post
    I am very interested in the Camargue, as well. I want a canti-compatible bike that will take 29'er tires that looks like a regular bike instead of a mountain bike.
    It looks exactly, and I mean exactly, like some of my vintage Stumpjumpers. Which is why I like it so much.
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    I really like the Camargue, but one of the things that puts me off is actually the slopping TT, which looks more MTB and less traditional

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    For the life of me, I do not understand why Velo Orange specs all of their frames with such short headtubes. It would seem to me that that "target" riders would not be cyclists seeking an aggressive riding position. I understand that you can still stack up a bunch of spacers on the steerer tubes, but that looks kind of tacky.

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