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    Begginer needing help on very first tour by myself.

    Hi my name is Ricky and I love cycling. I started at an early age and now I plan on going on a two week long tour and I'm pretty excited. I have a 1988 Schwinn Sprint 10 speed which is in great shape. It shifts and rides like a dream. I've never really been away from home for this long but I plan on becoming an Airborne Ranger in the Army so I'm just going to have to grow a set and suck it up. My bike is pretty light I mean I'm only 120lbs so I think I can carry a about 20lbs of gear. I plan on just taking a small backpack. Anyway, I just need a list of items that you usually haul. I live in southern Missouri and I plan on seeing countryside and flat terrain. I think Kansas or Nebraska would be a great place.

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    120lbs and you want to be a Airborne Ranger? I think that will grow your set!

    My suggestion is don't bite off too much all at once. Go for a weekend trip or even an over nighter first. That would work out the bugs.

    For a list those are all over the place Just do some searching. Maybe in the sticky at the top of this sub forum. Basically it really is common sense. Probably not too much different than a weekend camping trip just thinking lighter.
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    Thanks for the reply spinnaker I think I'll just try the weekend trip first.

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    You have a few good spots close by. I would take a trip to the Katy trail.

    In general it is best not to have weight on your back, and you'll be more comfortable for all day riding without it. Nashbar has some cheap panniers that go on sale quite often, and you can also rig up a pretty easy setup with a rack and a bookbag if you're careful. I just strapped a bookbag on the top of the rack for my first tour and was fine.

    You can't carry much gear in one bag, so you may want to think about either getting some decent panniers, or plan on paying for overnight stays. On a two week tour, you'll probably still be cheaper buying new gear than paying for hotels. Eureka has a nice starter tent, a blue sleeping mat and a simple cheap bag or even fleece blankets will work for the summer. Winter is a lot trickier.

    Kansas is a nightmare, and flat is not as easy as you think. It's my least favorite state that I have biked, not because of the places and people, but because it's boring, tough riding. Think about it this way: no hills = no coasting. This led to more soreness in the end at least for me. Winds can also be a major issue.

    On the other hand, Missouri is a great place to ride. The rolling hills are perfect for fast, fun riding. The climbs aren't long, and you get plenty of rest. If you want to venture farther, and soon, the Silver Comet/ Cheif Ladiga trail That starts in Atlanta is a great trail and I ride it quite often. It was my first touring experience.

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    Sounds great juggleaddict! I'll defiantly do some research on those trails!

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    You're in a great place for practice. Start with a single overnight to the Mark Twain National Forest, than setup a multi-day loop covering different areas of the forest. This will give you a good idea how far you travel daily and how much time you need to setup and takedown your campsite. Of course as you travel you will become more efficiant.

    Here's a few resources for you:
    http://www.fs.usda.gov/mtnf
    http://www.adventurecycling.org/rout...america-trail/
    http://mostateparks.com/park/katy-trail-state-park
    http://www.mississippirivertrail.org/

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    If your bike has a triple up front, you can easily use a BOB trailer instead of having anything on your back. If you decide you like touring, you can invest in something more efficient - or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juggleaddict View Post

    In general it is best not to have weight on your back, and you'll be more comfortable for all day riding without it. Nashbar has some cheap panniers that go on sale quite often, a
    Unless they have changed their design, I would steer clear of the Nashbar panniers. A buddy of mine HAS them (yes I said has). On on our Selkirk Loop tour, the rivets let loose on the plastic backing and the backing got caught in his wheel. Caused him to flipped over his handlebars. He got banged up pretty good.

    So what does he do? He came home, called Nashbar and got them to send him a new free set. And it is not like hew is hurting for money, he could well afford top of the line equipment. Go figure.
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    Hub and spoke 24hour over night trips from your Home. try stuff out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinnaker View Post
    Unless they have changed their design, I would steer clear of the Nashbar panniers. A buddy of mine HAS them (yes I said has). On on our Selkirk Loop tour, the rivets let loose on the plastic backing and the backing got caught in his wheel. Caused him to flipped over his handlebars. He got banged up pretty good.

    So what does he do? He came home, called Nashbar and got them to send him a new free set. And it is not like hew is hurting for money, he could well afford top of the line equipment. Go figure.
    Yikes. I haven't heard of such a catastrophic failure with them. In that case I would steer clear of them. Banjo brothers maybe? I haven't tried them, but if I get my LHT in offroad shape (it's not far off, just need the fork and an old man mtn rack) I'll look at some of their frame bag/truck stuff.

    I remember being really really careful with strapping the backpack down, and I got one of the bungee nets when I did. I checked it religiously because I have heard of things like that happening. Sorry to hear you've actually seen it.

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    Lots of touring information here: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/?o=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by juggleaddict View Post
    Yikes. I haven't heard of such a catastrophic failure with them. In that case I would steer clear of them. Banjo brothers maybe? I haven't tried them, but if I get my LHT in offroad shape (it's not far off, just need the fork and an old man mtn rack) I'll look at some of their frame bag/truck stuff.

    I remember being really really careful with strapping the backpack down, and I got one of the bungee nets when I did. I checked it religiously because I have heard of things like that happening. Sorry to hear you've actually seen it.

    One of the ways he solved it was to strap vinyl siding to the sides of his rack. Looks goofy but I guess it does the job.

    Yes I have had a bungee get stuck in my wheel once. It was the last time that happened. The good thing was that it happened to fall in place just as I stopped. Got stuck as I was about to get underway. A valuable lesson that was very cheap to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinnaker View Post
    Unless they have changed their design, I would steer clear of the Nashbar panniers. A buddy of mine HAS them (yes I said has). On on our Selkirk Loop tour, the rivets let loose on the plastic backing and the backing got caught in his wheel. Caused him to flipped over his handlebars. He got banged up pretty good.
    OK. But fwiw I've been using them for 1.5 years of daily commuting plus a few thousand miles of touring. The rivets seem strong as ever. I'll keep an eye on them. But they seem stable and firmly seated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter S View Post
    OK. But fwiw I've been using them for 1.5 years of daily commuting plus a few thousand miles of touring. The rivets seem strong as ever. I'll keep an eye on them. But they seem stable and firmly seated.

    He could have just got a bad one. But still a poor design all the same IMHO.
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