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Old 02-10-14, 12:09 PM   #26
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Thus, you might consider a front rack with more width than the nitto-Riv thing.
they are only thinking of handlebar bag supports with those.
Uh...No, if you are referring to the Nitto Big Front Rack. The platform does not sit high enough for bar bag support. It's made for people like me who want to cary something on a front rack platform and also want to use front panniers. The platform is plenty large (IIRC, it's about 13" x 4.5") for my large Cat's Meow sleeeping bag. You could easily put a smallish tent on it. I bought mine to replace my Beckman front rack.

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"It has a platform for a big load--sleeping bag, mat, tent, whatever--and horizontal bars lower for hooking on regular old panniers. The lower position isn't as low as low-riders, but it's not that important to keep the load that low anyways."
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Old 02-10-14, 12:13 PM   #27
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You show a rear rack and bag ..,sorry .. just dont work for RBW, so I dont memorize their inventory ..


My front rack was a Custom job . done on tour in Newcastle Northumbria UK , by a bike builder there

.. in under 72 hours .

then I got on a Ferry and Rode the southern coast of Norway, and south thru Denmark .. in 1991..

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Old 02-10-14, 12:27 PM   #28
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Sorry for my cranial density, but would you please elaborate on having a rack with greater width than the Nitto-Riv "Big Front Rack" in particular as regards your statement, "they are only thinking of handlebar bag supports with those"
As noted in another reply, that's not what the front platform is for. The platform sits way too low to support a bar bag. The rack has two eyelet mounting position. Even using the position that seats the rack highest above the wheel it's nowhere near high enough to support a bar bag. It's designed to carry a tent, sleeping bag, etc. I carry my large sleeping bag on mine. If my tent packed a tad shortter, I would put the tent up there. And the panniers mount to the lower bars, which sits them slightly higher than low riders for a little extra ground clearence.
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Old 02-10-14, 12:37 PM   #29
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You show a rear rack and bag
I diodn't show anythng. That was Riv's internal link that copied with the quote. Here is the front rack in action. Plenty big enough for more than a handle bar bag:

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Old 02-10-14, 12:48 PM   #30
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This one http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r1.htm was what came to mind ..


whatever

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Old 02-10-14, 02:19 PM   #31
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I have the surly and use it pretty heavily. If you have the cash, tubus is never a bad choice. If you want to possibly off-road tour, go with an old man mtn rack. I found the surly to be plenty sturdy, and lightweight.
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Old 02-10-14, 03:15 PM   #32
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OMM Sherpa keep your panniers higher, which is desirable for avoiding mud, branches and undergrowth.
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Old 02-10-14, 05:40 PM   #33
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OMM Sherpa keep your panniers higher, which is desirable for avoiding mud, branches and undergrowth.
What a nice touring rig! Are those 700 wheels?
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What a nice touring rig! Are those 700 wheels?
No, those are Schwalbe Big Apples 26x2.35. Almost the same diameter as smaller 700c tires. I also run 700c wheels, but not for offroad touring. The volume of the larger tires makes for a comfy ride, and less suction in mud.
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When I was on a cycling vacation in Montreal I needed a front rack. I picked up something called a "Voyager" for about $20 Canadian. It worked very well and I still use it to this day. I think it is made in Canada. John
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Good choice assuming you really didn't want a front rack with a platform. The Surly Nice is insanely heavy.
For anyone looking for a very strong and good looking front rack with a platform, check out the Nitto Big rack sold by Rivendell.

+1 !

Pricey, but I can't imagine needing a different rack. It's got every feature I could need or want, is beautiful, and still shiny and looks new after two years of solid use, year round, on my commuter in a wet environment. Steady under heavy loads, solid under heavy asymmetrical loads, all the attachments points I want and need for bungees (or bungee bottomed drop down trunk panniers, velcro or leather straps), low rider mounts, M5 (or M6?) threaded hole at the bottom, mount for reflector or other accessory (light etc) at the front...I can't recommend this rack highly enough. More than worth every penny. I'm tough on gear and load it down heavily, regularly, and it's still like new and looks great.
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No, those are Schwalbe Big Apples 26x2.35. Almost the same diameter as smaller 700c tires. I also run 700c wheels, but not for offroad touring. The volume of the larger tires makes for a comfy ride, and less suction in mud.
Sorry I didn't see this earlier - thanks for the reply!

Looks like you still have some room for your fenders (though it's close!!!). I realize for running on pavement, gravel roads and the occasional bike trail I'll probably need something a little different that the Bell "Roundabout" tires I have.
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Sorry I didn't see this earlier - thanks for the reply!

Looks like you still have some room for your fenders (though it's close!!!). I realize for running on pavement, gravel roads and the occasional bike trail I'll probably need something a little different that the Bell "Roundabout" tires I have.
I run 700x35s without an issue, and could go quite a bit larger, even with fenders. The rear is more limiting than the front, but with the sliding dropouts and a tugnut, there is loads of room. I bet I could fit a 700x50 slick in there.
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Minoura with top deck, is a bit heavy but not as heavy as the Surly Nice Rack and I like that the rack from Minoura is steel. Have some smaller front panniers which offer better clearance for narrower trails and such. Installed nicely and feels very solid when packed.

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To further muddyThis thread I went with the Tubus Duo. If your fork has the appropriate braze ons this rack is an awesome minimalist but burly front track. It doesn't look sturdy at first glance but due to 3 anchor points per each side it's solid. I needed a rack that was suitable for touring but also was compatible with bus bicycle racks for commuting. This checked both needs.
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I am doing what benda18 did and am getting a Tubus Duo (my DT can support it) which I am sure someone somewhere will send to you in Canadia. I have a surly Nice rear rack and have had no issues with it whatsoever. However cannot speak to the front rack other than that it is big and seems a touch heavier than I would want. Everyone and their grandma seems to rate the Tubus racks really well and for the weight and strength I cannot argue. Plus they look good and are made of steel (or titanium...oooooh) which I can get repaired nearly anywhere if something should happen (not Ti though).

The Touring Store does ship to Canadia and does sell Tubus racks:
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