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    Yea , usually an upgrade , like Basic Ones for something with more puncture resistant features ..

    but as an REI is not within 150 miles of here , what tires does it come with ?
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    Here's a great list of items for your first tours!

    Bicycle Touring - List

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradtx View Post
    It really depends on the local market.



    The longer wheelbase of a tourer combined with a typical touring bike's geometry make it less agile than a road race and some CX designs. Also, a lot of a touring bike's weight is in the wheelset and tires which can make it feel sluggish, again in comparison to sportier designs. I personally find riding an unloaded touring bike enjoyable. If I want to rail some turns I'll grab one of the roadies.

    Brad
    Gotcha. So a touring bike unloaded suffers compared to a non-touring bike, rather than to a loaded tourer?

    I like the stability. Light bikes with tiny tires make me nervous, especially with the junk that accumulates in the sides of the roads in a college town


    Just an FYI, that doesn't really impact which bike you get, when you buy a bike from REI you get an hour of labor for free before they send it home with you- so if you want to upgrade any components/add fenders/etc, might be worth doing then (if REI sells the one you want)! I had them put a kickstand on, for instance, and just paid for the stand and not the installation.

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    I'd lean toward the safari. The better components are going to be worth it in the long run. That said, the Buzz is a great deal too.

    Before you buy a trailer for the kiddo, please consider a child seat mounted on your bike. I've got several hundred miles with my now 3-year old on the back of my bike. Because she's so close to me we can talk and grab hands and so forth as we ride. It's just so much more interactive. If she was in a trailer I couldn't interact with her at all. I'm in an active family biking club and most parents agree that bike-mounted child seats are a better option than trailers.

    Here is a nice resource: What to Look for When Purchasing a Baby/Child?s Bike Seat | Two Wheeling Tots

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    Super helpful guys. You all rock!

    BTW, my son River was born as 2:11 this morning. He is a rad little dude and I can already tell he will love riding with me on whatever bike I decide to purchase

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    Quote Originally Posted by treitz View Post
    Super helpful guys. You all rock!

    BTW, my son River was born as 2:11 this morning. He is a rad little dude and I can already tell he will love riding with me on whatever bike I decide to purchase
    Congrats on the new father-hood!
    I'm planning on de-branding my 23" Schwinn High Plains updating components and powder-coating the frame - metamorphosizing it into the ULTIMATE TOURING MACHINE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by treitz View Post
    Super helpful guys. You all rock!

    BTW, my son River was born as 2:11 this morning. He is a rad little dude and I can already tell he will love riding with me on whatever bike I decide to purchase
    Congratulations!

    Brad

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    Congratulations! Children are great!

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    Thanks again for the input and for the congratulations guys.

    After much consideration, I decided to go with the Buzz. Ultimately, I just couldn't justify the expense to go up to the Safari. Had some fenders thrown on and may add racks down the road. I look forward to breaking this bad boy in and putting a few miles on it.

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