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Old 04-16-14, 01:32 PM   #26
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I recently got a pair of Mountainsmith Switchbacks from Sierra Trading Post. $55 per set. On the smallish side, which is good, not waterproof. They seem well made and well thought out. A fairly basic but solid mounting system. I will try them out on a short tour this weekend using a bikepacking set up.

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Old 06-05-14, 04:58 PM   #27
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glad i found this thread, as i'm new to touring and been looking into pannier bags. already bought the Blackburn EX-1 Disc Rack and not just need some pannier bags to go along with it.

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Old 06-06-14, 10:53 PM   #28
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be tough. Tour with whatever. I pack everything in trash bags anyway. I had expensive bags on my early tours. Things got wet anyways!!
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I'd say go for it.

My first panniers were rear panniers from Detours. $30 i think. Still have them 4 years in. Not water proof, but they came with covers. You can get them on and off the frame if you need to. Sometimes they flop into the spokes so I need to bungee cord them to keep them steady. But I lived with them. Then I got a front rack and bought some Ortlieb front panniers. WOW - so nice. Easy to get on and off. Easy to pack. Easy to close. Waterproof. Crazy expensive.

When the rear panniers die (and they are starting to wear at the seams and i'm afraid I'll get some holes in the next trip), then I'll upgrade to some nice Ortlieb rear bags. But until then, my cheap bags still work.

In fact - the cheap bags were totally worth it so I could see if I liked biking with bags. No sense in spending $$$ and finding out you don't like bags or touring. $30 investment to learn was totally worth it for me.
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I used a cheap set for a while. They (obviously) weren't waterproof, and they didn't last very long - all the bolts holding the clips on started to fail. Replaced them with Ortliebs (of course) and couldn't be happier. If money is tight, go with the cheapies, and make em last as long as you can.
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has anyone used this brand before? seems like great reviews on amazon... thinking to pull the trigger.

Avenir Excursion Large Panniers (1, 700 Cubic Inches total)
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I got a set of Axiom DXLs. They aren't as expensive or perhaps as rugged as Ortliebs, but are still waterproof, have a good reputation, and weigh less too for what that's worth. I'm damn glad I went with decent waterproof panniers with a decent attachment system. I haven't used cheap ones before, but after using the ones I did get, I can easily tell how it was worth the money. It would definitely be a hassle dealing with bags falling off, having to deal with rain covers(and dealing with storing them on tour), and worrying about them falling apart or wearing a hole. It's nice to just load up the panniers, stick them on the bike(hassle free), and forget it, rain or shine, bumpy road or not. If you think you'll end up using them more than a few times, I think it's worth it. Even if you decide touring isn't for you, you can sell a set of very lightly used quality panniers from a reputable brand and probably make up the cost difference(not to mention have a hassle free first tour). You're going to have those Chinese things taking up space in your house forever.
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Back in the day, one sewed one's own panniers from a Frostline kit. Or convinced one's mother to do so.
Got several thousand miles from mine....
I tried to search for Frostline and seems that there were a few such sources, Frostline, Altra, etc.
Only one came up for current needs for DIY - Quest Outfitters - Outdoor Fabrics
I bought a cheap HB bag of the M-Wave brand (no website) and the bracket snapped off on the first ride.
I adapted the remains of the bracket using electric conduit clamps and that is very serviceable.
I see many bags that can easily be used as HB bags, e.g. 6 and 9 can coolers, eBags Crew Coolers, etc. but I can't find an inexpensive OEM bracket system that can be used on a handlebar.

I had bought a Nashbar pannier set and it had such flimsy elastic cord and was too small so returned it.
I am using a converted school backpack on my 23.4 mile (R/T) commute to work. I might sew my on HB bar bag and panniers.

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You can get both really cheap and okay stuff from China and Taiwan. The really cheap stuff has inferior design, materials and workmanship, not just workmanship. The good and the bad can both come from the same factory. If you do not want to take a chance on this stuff you either have to research much in advance or but stuff made by reputable brands or in reputable places.
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Back in the day, one sewed one's own panniers from a Frostline kit. Or convinced one's mother to do so.
Got several thousand miles from mine....
Green Pepper patterns:
http://www.thegreenpepper.com/downloads/201web.pdf

I sewed up a pair of these in the early 1970's, and did several relatively long tours with them. My brother still uses them on his town bike for going to the store. I replaced them with "real" panniers after 5-6 years of use. You can buy an inexpensive pair of panniers cheaper than you can make a pair for today.

Here they are in action.

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has anyone used this brand before? seems like great reviews on amazon... thinking to pull the trigger.

Avenir Excursion Large Panniers (1, 700 Cubic Inches total)
I have a set, not the large but a 1500 cubic inch. I use them for front bags when going fully loaded, and as rear bags alone for some weekend trips. They are a very light material, mine have a retaining clip in addition to the hooks. I like them ok, but would not take them on a round the world trip. There are some threads coming loose, the handle strap pulled loose on one, disassembled it and sewed back. I use a set of Jandd Mountaineering panniers for the rear, they weigh three pounds each almost, and are ten times more rugged in construction, the penalty being the weight.
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My thoughts exactly. Ease of mounting is worth the cost. Those bags would be difficult to mount and difficult to carry around.

Ortliebs are wonderfully waterproof but the mounting system outshines that feature by far. They snap into place and stay there no matter how much you bounce the bike around. That alone is worth the cost.
I have to agree with this. I started with the Nashbar ATB panniers. Well, actually, I started, way back in the day, with a Wald, non-collapsible, steel basket set crammed to overflowing with crap. So there's definitely truth in the idea that you can make just about anything work. But more recently I got two Nashbar sets and made a number of successful trips with them. The biggest issue I had was the mounting system with open hooks, a bungee on the bottom, and a velcro loop to secure it that was very difficult to work with. My routine involved checking the bags for the first few miles until I had gone several miles without a hook coming off the rail. Almost every trip required at least one readjustment to get the hooks sitting solidly in place. Then I did my best to not remove any bags from the bike. So, a little fiddly, but they definitely worked. They held a lot, and once they were well seated and velcroed in place, they were pretty solid.

Then one day I had an REI coupon available, and decided to upgrade one set to waterproof, Ortleib, rear panniers. The expense compared to my Nashbar set was still pretty extreme, and I wondered if the price could possibly be worth it. I was sure the Ortleibs would be better, but 5 or 6 times better? I got my new panniers, adjusted the bottom hook for my rack, and practiced putting them on and taking them off. Not that there was anything to practice. They dropped into place, the hooks clicked closed, and they were on and solid. It sounds like a small thing, but after all the time I had spent fiddling with the Nashbars, that was amazing. Any regrets about my purchase vanished.

That said, Nashbars still work and occasionally still get used. Given the price, I have no regrets on that purchase, either. Also, it wasn't until after I got my Ortleibs that I started making more of an effort to pare down my gear. Now I can make do with just my two Ortleibs, and I wonder if it wouldn't be better if I had gone with 4 smaller bags than with 2 giant ones. So now I'm contemplating two sets of front panniers to replace my one rear set. The expense keeps me from trying that out. Had I spent more time experimenting with different loads using cheaper bags, I might have gone with front panniers from the start. So I can see the value in starting out with something more affordable when you're still experimenting.
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