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Old 06-05-14, 05:59 AM   #1
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Can you put a rear rack on a Montague?

As the title says, can you put a rear rack on a Montague?

Understand, it does not need to be easily removed. It only needs to be removed for flights.

My daughter plans to fly to London (from China), purchase a Montague, put racks on, ride to Rome, and then take the racks off and fly back to China. The bike may be used for other extended tours the involve destination flights.

I say all this to point out that the concern is not easy, or daily, folding. The concern is a rack that can carry touring stuff (2 full ortlibs, etc. . . . about 15Kg). So, can a rack be put on a Montague?
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Old 06-05-14, 06:10 AM   #2
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I've gotta believe that something like this should fit on pretty much any 26" wheel or larger DF frame.

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Why a Montague? Europe has a lot of bikes to buy..
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Old Man Mountain Sherpa rack could be made to work, might need some extensions but could mount on an Axiom seat post clamp.

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Why a Montague? Europe has a lot of bikes to buy..
Yes, but there are not a lot of bikes that are reasonably priced, suitable for touring (yes, she has tried a Dahon, too much heel strike), and suitable for flying. She is considering buying a BSO and just leaving it, unlocked, at the airport in Rome. That is plan B.



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I finally got a response from Montague. They recommend the seat-post clamp. I do not mean a seat-post rack, but a clamp, like the one seen above, to attach to front of a standard rack to.

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Thanks for contacting Montague. Any of our bikes can accept a standard rear rack, but certain models may make the folded size a bit wider. The dropouts do have threaded eyelets to accept rack bolts. The front of the rack would need to attach to the seat tube with a clamp, since our seatstays are lower than most frames. A seatpost clamp like this would allow that. Your local bike shop could definitely help with mounting the rack.

Let me know if you have any questions, I'm happy to help.
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I'm not sure how much she wants to spend, but it looks like the Burley Travoy would pack small enough to be packed onto a plane.
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Brompton , made in London, and a Carry Freedom city trailer, shipped down from Scotland .

with the Front carrier block, a bag there , [the basket is adaptable to put anything in.]

and the trailer, comes with a bag. , the need for panniers is gone.
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I was able to mount a Ventura Universal Bicycle Carrier Rack on mine, but had to jury rig a connection for the adapter plate (zip tied it in place w/ a rubber bumper) and had to fashion two short extenders (cut offs from a mending bracket) to finish the connection.

it would have been better / easier w/ the seat post clamp w/ rack bosses robow mentioned — probably I’ll get one next time I’m at the LBS.
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As the title says, can you put a rear rack on a Montague?

Understand, it does not need to be easily removed. It only needs to be removed for flights.

My daughter plans to fly to London (from China), purchase a Montague, put racks on, ride to Rome, and then take the racks off and fly back to China. The bike may be used for other extended tours the involve destination flights.

I say all this to point out that the concern is not easy, or daily, folding. The concern is a rack that can carry touring stuff (2 full ortlibs, etc. . . . about 15Kg). So, can a rack be put on a Montague?
I've got an older paratrooper as my main bicycle (didn't come with discs, mine only has em on the front). They'll take most racks that will fit any bike with disc brakes, but it'll interfere with the folding unless you get one of the newer models that are supposed to have an integrated/optional folding rear rack. I rarely fold it when I'm touring, so I don't mind undoing a couple bolts if I need to hop on a train.

IMHO the main advantage of the Montague frames is that you can load and beat the living crap out of them, much more so than any of the other folders at least.
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Trip happened and is over. I attached the rack to the seat post.
trip was lovely but the Montague was too large for the subways and train to handle by my self in a box so I have bought a new bike for touring.

I am Robertc daughter
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nice feed back .. Yes, the retention of large wheels , negates the fold-advantage, in size , to still be unwieldy, in practice.
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nice feed back .. Yes, the retention of large wheels , negates the fold-advantage, in size , to still be unwieldy, in practice.
Fully folded, they're really not that big a deal if you use a decent bag for them. The only time it's kinda cumbersome is if you have a rack that mounts to the frame itself, or if you're a smaller person. I take mine on (crowded) trains and subways in Japan all the time when I pull my racks off, stick folding pedals on and switch it over to 'commuter mode'.
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Brompton, OTOH is just 4 cubic feet 24 x 24 x 12, when folded , only the front bag comes Off.
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Brompton, OTOH is just 4 cubic feet 24 x 24 x 12, when folded , only the front bag comes Off.
Another thing to keep in mind regarding the Bromptons is the weight limit. By body weight alone I'm already way over what they suggest after I tried contacting them. YMMV on that obviously.
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Extended Steel seat post (30% thicker tube wall than the standard length) I'm putting 220 pounds on my saddle .

Also got the Heavy Rider Upgrade version of the Bike Friday Pocket Llama.
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Heavy Rider Upgrade version of the Bike Friday Pocket Llama.
Had one of those, it was actually pretty nice but the frame crapped out on me about 2 years in.
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Where did it fail ?(curious) was it a Mk 2 frame?
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Where did it fail ?(curious) was it a Mk 2 frame?
Not sure exactly what generation it was since I picked it up 2nd hand, but it cracked around the bottom bracket. Not going to lie, I probably abused the thing way more than I should have.
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I realize that some here love the brompton. I went with her and we test rode a brompton. It felt like something that, touring on, would be a stunt rather than a joy. It just didn't address the issues that she had with the Dahon.

The Dahon (I purchased this one in China, I can safely say that I think it has been to more countries than most people reading this thread):


I feel that the brompton would be a superb choice for a person that uses the metro for a portion of their commute. However, it isn't what she wanted for touring. Funny enough, even as it was being set up for her test ride, the mechanic commented that it, the Brompton, was not what she wanted to her stated goal of extended touring. He voiced what I have already said, it is a good commuting bike; but not ideal for touring.

She then went and took a bike from Rodriguez Cycles for an extended test ride and liked it. As a result, this is in my garage, waiting for her to pick it up on her summer break from school in China:


She hasn't seen these pictures yet . . . See, I washed it after the jaunt to the BMX track . . .


The one she test rode was kitted out for her style of touring and loaded with weights so she could see how it worked for her.

Back to the initial point of the thread, she ended up putting the clamp that is shown in this thread on the seat post, that allowed a normal rack to be used. It worked; however, it slowed the takedown a bit. In all though, the Montague didn't work as well as she would have liked. She borrowed my Dahon for a while and it was also not ideal. We then went and looked at the brompton. It finally turned out that she liked the6-pack. It will be going on its first extended tours this summer.

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What bicycle is she going to use, make and model?
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Rodriguez 6-pack Rohloff is the make and model of the new bike

the daughter

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I bought the rack for Montague from the webstore in Taiwan. It can carry 25kg load.

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