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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    From what I can see, there are at least 3 threads listing touring bicycles ... all of which are sticky-ed.

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    Why not create this list as an appendage to one or more of those? I suspect the number of people going for custom touring bicycles is relatively small, but a list like this could be a useful addition to an overall touring bicycle list.


    And as an aside, one problem with your list is that it is quite restrictive. I have a friend, for example, who has a small bicycle building company. He specialises in touring bicycles, but only produces a very limited number each year. He doesn't have two lines of touring bicycle ... each one is manufactured individually. He doesn't have much of a web presence. So ... I'm not allowed to mention him here. And yet the bicycles he produces are as custom as they come.

    Are you the forum police now Machka? OK… Hey, someone has discussed tires before and on top of that, it's probably covered in one of the stickied threads! No more tire threads!

    And by the way, none of those threads you pointed to do what the original message here does, in several ways. For one, people research this forum often with keywords limited to the subject and the same goes for internet searches for "custom touring bike".

    The criteria are somewhat loose and is in place for a reason, to keep from a tourer having their time wasted, or worse, money and time. Builders who have a proven design belong here. It's pretty easy for a builder to find a friend to go tour on a bike and document it so I feel it's a pretty valid criteria for the sake of a customer that there be some actual evidence that a real product has been produced before it is listed here. So, is there a journal or two of someone touring on one of these bikes that your friend builds? If so, bingo, they are on the list. Any verified report that any of these builders are no longer producing custom framed touring bikes and that builder will be removed. FAIR.

    If you really have a friend that builds custom touring bikes then I can't see why your are railing against this thread. It's like pulling the rug out from underneath your friend because this thread will be found by people looking for custom touring bikes, and if your pal is legit, he'll eventually be on it.

    And yes, I think people who pursue making such frames should get a special list of their own because it requires a **heck** of a lot of additional effort to build frames per order and vary the geometries.

    I love to see innovation, such as what Rob English has done but at this point, I don't know that the bike shown is much more than a concept machine, with obviously one foot in full on race mode and toe stepping into the tourer's world. Rob knows touring well, but where does he stand with him building custom, built to order, touring frames/bikes? Didn't get a chance to talk to him.

    I think a tour journal or two should be the standard and thus far, each builder listed in the first post has accounts of their custom touring offerings being toured on, by buyers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MassiveD View Post
    Rob English is his name, he hails from the UK I believe.


    I think a stand alone list is what is required, but it could be appended to the overall list so that people who start there are edified. But custom shoppers need an easy to find and search list.
    Exactly. Add an appendage to the supposed entire list of touring bikes (which BTW isn't up to date, what year was it last updated) but this absolutely should be a thread and list of its own for search reasons and those others mentioned in my previous reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles2go View Post
    No longer taking orders for custom built frames is kind of a problem isn't it?

    From what I know, Lynskey is probably going to be added but I still need to drop by their site and see what they are up to these days. Thanks for the leads!
    Jeff Jones is not taking orders, but is still building custom bikes, including for touring. Just because there is an order backlog, he's off the list? Sheesh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan s View Post
    Jeff Jones is not taking orders, but is still building custom bikes, including for touring. Just because there is an order backlog, he's off the list? Sheesh!
    Glad to hear he's busy. Awesome situation for a builder. He's built custom touring bikes before? Journals? Accounts? Examples of finished products in the hands of customers? I had come across his work online before you mentioned Jones in this thread, and dug what I saw on his site and in journals, but didn't see any touring bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MassiveD View Post
    Rob English is his name, he hails from the UK I believe.
    Ok so he's English, is named English and uses a Union Flag type logo....that's fine, but I would lose the saltire to make the logo match his name better.

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    Circle A Cycles in Rhode Island does awesome work and is listed as one of Richard Sachs' next wave builders. I am more than likely going to Chris and the crew for my dream bike.

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    Also I might recommend Brian Chapman formerly of Circle A and currently of Chapman Cycles
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    Quote Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
    Circle A Cycles in Rhode Island does awesome work and is listed as one of Richard Sachs' next wave builders. I am more than likely going to Chris and the crew for my dream bike.

    ? index

    Also I might recommend Brian Chapman formerly of Circle A and currently of Chapman Cycles
    Thanks. Looks like Brian has been turning out thoughtfully designed touring bikes so I'll gladly add him.

    So many builders out there and so many who do not seem to "embrace" building and offering touring bicycles, which is fine of course…but I'm fairly certain a couple more of Richard's "The Next Wave" will added here.

    Thanks again.
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    Some more Next Wavers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles2go View Post
    Thanks. Looks like Brian has been turning out thoughtfully designed touring bikes so I'll gladly add him.

    So many builders out there and so many who do not seem to "embrace" building and offering touring bicycles, which is fine of course…but I'm fairly certain a couple more of Richard's "The Next Wave" will added here.

    Thanks again.
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    Thus far, all of the custom builders I've talked to are happy to hear about this list, even if they aren't on it yet. Will be working on digging up a few more go-to custom touring bike builders to add here after I finish up the work I'm taking a break from right now for The Loaded Touring Bike Photo Gallery. This retirement thing is tough.
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