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Old 08-08-14, 04:00 PM   #1
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Tents looking for a new tent seen this

I got a tent I use once in a while it is a scout tent wenzel brand but I seen this as I also metal detect and it claim lightness 3lbs without rainfly and 4 with it I wanna see what you folks think of this tent specially for 169$...
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I got a tent I use once in a while it is a scout tent wenzel brand but I seen this as I also metal detect and it claim lightness 3lbs without rainfly and 4 with it I wanna see what you folks think of this tent specially for 169$...
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I got a tent I use once in a while it is a scout tent wenzel brand but I seen this as I also metal detect and it claim lightness 3lbs without rainfly and 4 with it I wanna see what you folks think of this tent specially for 169$...
$169 is way too much for the Scout. It appears Wenzel no longer makes the Scout, but this tent is similar for $35 on Amazon. My guess is you're going to get some condensation build-up inside the tent if you don't leave the door open a bit. It may not hold up that well to long term use either. There's not a lot of room inside. Still $35 isn't much money...

I prefer no tent (cowboy camping), but use a light weight tarp-tent when needed.
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oops I forgot the link huh I was tired and sick when I posted this here is the link Kelty Salida 2 Person Tent Metal Detectors For Sale - Kellyco this was the tent I originally was trying to post sorry for not posting the link I forgot to..

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$169 is way too much for the Scout. It appears Wenzel no longer makes the Scout, but this tent is similar for $35 on Amazon..
I had that tent for a long time. IN the desert southwest, it was great. Kept the desert chill off a bit, and the snakes out. When I used it in the Ozarks, "Some" condensation is an understatement. Since my "large" tent is now a Eureka Zeus II I don't seem to mind condensation, but it really was bad with the Wenzel. Even so, if I saw one on sale for ten bucks(like I did my first one)I would buy it. Spend most of my time in a hammock now, but I have really good memories of that little wenzel.
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I have one almost identical to that. I really like it. With the rainfly, there is absolutely no air circulation so in the warmer weather areas in high humidity, it's hot inside. It's kept me dry in the rain though!
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oops I forgot the link huh I was tired and sick when I posted this here is the link Kelty Salida 2 Person Tent Metal Detectors For Sale - Kellyco this was the tent I originally was trying to post sorry for not posting the link I forgot to..
The Kelty Salida 2 is a great tent. I've used it out west and in the Southeastern US. It's not perfect, but a good deal for the discounted price of $140 that I paid for it. I don't hesitate recommending it for either backpacking or cycle-touring.
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Ok cool I just could not justify 3 to 4 hundred dollars for something like the hubba or the big agnus yes you get what you pay for . That is just hard to come up with I guess.
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The Kelty Tent seems pretty solid but is a bit heavy for my taste. Lightweight is somewhat important because I am not one to spend a whole lot of time hanging out in a tent while in nature if I can avoid it. Tents for me are more about sleeping and keeping out of rain. Plus my hammock set up is pretty light so I am trying to keep it as close as possible so I can switch easily between the two without adding weight to my set up.

I am probably looking at the Big Agnes Fly Creek UL 2 because it weighs less than the MSR Hubba NX Solo and the Mountain Hardwear SuperMega UL2 (which are the two lightest tents within the lightweight tents I looked at in the under 3lb category) and also it has more floor space then the others and is cheaper (the Hubba is only a single person so while techincally cheaper I am comparing it to 2 person tents and it is only about 50 cheaper)

I do want a Sea to Summit Specialist Duo Shelter but their rep told me to avoid it as it is not a tent and isn't as rugged as I would want but is right around a pound in weight.
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You won't find a better tent for that price: Sierra Designs Clip Flashlight 2 - 2 Person, 3 Season :: CampSaver.com

EDIT: Never mind, it isn't in stock and is dicontinued. You might find one still for sale somewhere.

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The difference between a 2 or 3 lb tent and a 4.5lb tent is, what, 2 full water bottles at most? 99% of the cycle-tourists I know can handle the weight difference and should (did I say that?) enjoy the $-savings from purchasing the slightly heavier tent. YMMV

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The difference between a 2 or 3 lb tent and a 4.5lb tent is, what, 2 full water bottles at most? 99% of the cycle-tourists I know can handle the weight difference and should (did I say that?) enjoy the $-savings from purchasing the slightly heavier tent. YMMV
Apply that logic to all of your choices and you are on your way toward a very heavy load. I think a better way to look at the weight is that it is close to twice as heavy. If you make all of your choice in a mode of not worrying about a weight difference that large you will be carry a lot more than necessary. A pound here and a pound there and pretty soon you are carrying 80 pounds.

In any case why not buy a tent that is inexpensive and light? You could pick up a Eureka Spitfire 1 for $100-120 and it weighs something like 2.5 pounds if you get rid of the heavy stakes in favor of some lighter ones and carry the minimum number to pitch the tent.

FWIW: I like the Spitfire better that a lot of much more expensive tents. My only real complaint other than the crappy pegs which are easy enough to replace, is that the poles don't fold very short so it is a longish bag when stowed. Not a show stopper though.

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Apply that logic to all of your choices and you are on your way toward a very heavy load.
Yes Pete, you're technically correct. But, applying your logic in reverse, (facetious mode on)are you cutting all of the handle off your toothbrush to save every possible gram? If not, why not? A gram is a gram, right? (facetious mode off)

My point was, if primarily considering the tent's weight vs retail cost of lowering its weight, is a potentially far higher cost worth a few ounces or not? As I said, you're talking about adding a full water bottle or two weight-wise.

In my case and that of most of my acquaintances, we aren't the weight weenies you've become - no insult intended there. We've taken a different but still valid perspective. There's simply no point for me/us to count grams obsessively. That we happen to be riding recumbents and are therefore starting off at least 10 pounds heavier than most DF-cycletourists probably has something to do with it.

Ref your comments about the Spitfire 1 tent, I actually have a Spitfire 2 because I prefer more room even solo touring. The 1's a touch too small while the 2's a bit larger than I really want (and of course slightly heavier than the 1). So, I'm thinking of switching to a Salida 2 for an upcoming tour. Again - everything's a tradeoff and everyone has his or her own perspective. I'm willing to trade a bit of physical effort for saving a couple $$$ as my fixed income retirement is very limited. I also pick the areas and routes I tour keeping my limitations in mind. YMMV

(Oh, and I always carry all the normal tent pegs plus a spare or two - having been the recipient/survivor of a couple of unexpected wind events where only properly staking the tent down prevented a calamity. My perspective is also a partial product of having thru-hiked the Appalachian Trail twice. I've played the weight weenie game there and found it sucked the fun out of things for me. The second time, I carried more weight and enjoyed it far more. Again, YMMV.)

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Keep an eye on Steep and Cheap. Odds are good you can find a 1 or 2 person 3-season tent w/pretty good weight specs/ventilation for $100-150.
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i like that design. it seems to be copied by a number of tent manufacturers. BTW, as regards the excessive condensation claim. how can a tent with that much NET have condensation problems?
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I have an alps mountaineering mystique 1.5. Very nice design although not freestanding. Weighs about 4lbs. I got mine on sale for around $100- they are slightly more now.

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