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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclebum View Post
    Re the pump. With those skinny tires, you might want to go with the mini Road Morph. The in line gage on the larger version is not good for much. I just do the pinch test. Road Morphs are extremely reliable pumps.
    Lezynes are prett nice too.

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    Most will agree: taking only one pair of shorts is the worst advice posted here. A second pair of shorts on any tour is no burden.

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    I don't think I could like that Revelate bag. It looks too wide right under the saddle. I don't even like most small seat bags for tools and spare tubes, they are too wide, and rub my legs.

    I have an older Topeak rack with two 5mm bolts to lock it onto the seatpost, and even the width around the seatpost is slightly annoying.

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    The Topeak Mini-morph is fine for 23c or 25c tires. It doesn't need a gauge, since it's very difficult to pump it over about 90 psi. I think I counted over 200 pump strokes the last time I used it to fix a flat. I've never tried to use one for topping off the pressure on a long trip. That might be a bit tedious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by venturi95 View Post
    Most will agree: taking only one pair of shorts is the worst advice posted here. A second pair of shorts on any tour is no burden.
    Not sure about most, but I have done long tours including a camping and cooking coast to coast one with one pair of bike shorts and did not find it to be a hardship. Nothing wrong with taking more if you want but it is certainly possible to get by with one, especially since the OP is asking about a credit card tour where presumably he will have a room every night.

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    If you aren't locked in with the Viscacha, the Revelate Tangle frame bag is great, especially for odd shaped things. Spare tire, pump, rain jacket rolled around the pump, and easy access on bike to get to map cue sheet or food. I am a big fan.

    Also, I went without a rack, and bought SeaLion dry bags. One for the handlebars, one for under the seat. Worked very well. Also, sneakers are bulky, but flip flops can be strapped right to the outside of the dry bag and held in place.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RollCNY View Post
    If you aren't locked in with the Viscacha, the Revelate Tangle frame bag is great, especially for odd shaped things. Spare tire, pump, rain jacket rolled around the pump, and easy access on bike to get to map cue sheet or food. I am a big fan.

    Also, I went without a rack, and bought SeaLion dry bags. One for the handlebars, one for under the seat. Worked very well. Also, sneakers are bulky, but flip flops can be strapped right to the outside of the dry bag and held in place.
    Do you find the frame bag interferes with your legs while pedaling? Do you have to take care in packing the frame bag to mitigate the chance of interference? I like the Revelate bags - but have not tried the frame bag due to worry that there may be interference.

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    300 mile credit card tour?.....Unless your going to Death Valley or some such......Be able to fix a flat....
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    Quote Originally Posted by NealH View Post
    Do you find the frame bag interferes with your legs while pedaling? Do you have to take care in packing the frame bag to mitigate the chance of interference? I like the Revelate bags - but have not tried the frame bag due to worry that there may be interference.
    When standing, it might rub if you move the bike significantly side to side. In seated riding, it is unnoticeable, and I ride with my knees fairly tight to the top tube.

    On the return leg of the trip pictured, I actually packed everything in the under seat dry bag into the Tangle, plus the rain jacket I was wearing at the time of that photo. It bulged out like squirrel cheeks, but was still totally unobtrusive. I am a gigantic fan of that frame bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollCNY View Post
    When standing, it might rub if you move the bike significantly side to side. In seated riding, it is unnoticeable, and I ride with my knees fairly tight to the top tube.

    On the return leg of the trip pictured, I actually packed everything in the under seat dry bag into the Tangle, plus the rain jacket I was wearing at the time of that photo. It bulged out like squirrel cheeks, but was still totally unobtrusive. I am a gigantic fan of that frame bag.
    yes, frame bags rub. get a standard camping dry bag, and lash it under your seat, or put in on top of a seat post rack.

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    This was a credit card tour a few years ago ...
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/machka...7627943421118/





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    With smaller loads, bags can become a significant part of the weight.
    Metal racks, meant for big loads can carry small loads, but weigh the same.
    the saddlebag/barbag combo is an efficient CC-style luggage solution.

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    Carrying gear on any sport/race bike is a compromise of some sort.

    I credit card tour on a 15 pound carbon race bike (Record SuperSix HM) and having tried many methods of carrying the load on sport bikes (since the late 80s), I'm most happy with the gear carried as low and secure as possible on a rack (skewers & brake bridge attachment points) and panniers/bag arrangement or in a biker style backpack like Osprey makes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    This was a credit card tour a few years ago ...
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/machka...7627943421118/




    I like the combination of a Carradice saddlebag with a handlebar bag for touring. It's been popular for day trips and inn to inn touring in the UK since the early 20th Century. In someways it's similar to the bikepacking approach. If the saddle to rear wheel clearance is large enough you don't need a Bagman support and the saddlebag can be tucked up under the saddle bringing it close to the bike and rider's center of mass. For credit card trips I use a small Carradice Barley bag and maybe a front Ortlieb bar bag. For a recent overnight trip to visit friends I just used the Barley as all I needed was a change of clothes. If I want to be more independent I'll use the far larger Carradice Camper saddlebag and pack my tent, sleeping bag, pad and cooking equipment. I sometimes combine cycling with a train trip and if you only have a couple of bags fuss is kept to a minimum.



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    Nice looking ride NUN.

    The majority of tourers seem to enjoy bags at the bar (handlebar bags) as well as the ultralights embracing high mounted rear bags, but part of my love for riding includes climbing and moving the bike underneath me. To each their own but I don't like what high positioned weight does to a sport bike.

    Great that we have many options these days.

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    No way I would tour with just one pair of shorts and one jersey. You would need to wash out my gear every night, but it might not be dry by morning if the weather is humid or your clothes get particularly wet from rain. If you don't wash your clothes after every use, not only will they stink but you run a much higher risk of developing saddle sores. It would be much better to cut back in other areas, such as wearing cycling shoes that are also comfortable for walking in.

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    Room Service wash your kit every night ?.. it would take a big credit line to pay $200 a night + for that level of Hotel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    Room Service wash your kit every night ?.. it would take a big credit line to pay $200 a night + for that level of Hotel.
    OK, I'll share my "secret" in this regard. THESE

    For those of you link-shy, Andiamo cycling liners. Two of these weigh less than one pair of high quality cycling shorts and they dry out much faster. They're very well made too. I've had the same 3 pair many years and they still look and function like new.

    IMPORTANT: Then, wash the day's biking liner in the hotel sink along with the rest of the day's clothes, wring it all out, place it flat on a towel, roll the towel up and walk on the rolled up towel. Flip the towel by 1/4 turn and walk on it again. Unroll, drape the now damp clothes for the night. Very rarely seen this not result in completely dry clothes by morning.

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    All of those towels are your friend! I wore my bibs into the shower. The road grime that washed out of them, especially on wet, high traffic days was unbelievable. No way would I wear them two days in a row without washing them. I wasn't worried about bacteria, I just like starting the day in clean clothes.

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    I agree with some of the others that one pair of bike shorts and one jersey is fine, especially if you're credit card touring. Washing clothes in the sink is a piece of cake. You even get free soap bars for scrubbing. I only brought one pair of padded underwear on a recent 3-week trip on the Idaho Hot Springs loop. After the day's ride, I'd pop over to the river and scrub the shorts on some rocks. No soap. Friction is all it takes to get the shorts clean enough for the next day. No saddle sores. No stink.

    You also don't need three pairs of underwear and socks. One set of off-the-bike undies is plenty. Remember, you'll have access to a shower every day. I'd just bring two pairs of socks, so you have a fresh pair post-ride and one pair to clean.

    Using a Revelate Viscacha sounds like a perfect bag for a credit card tour. It'll fit everything you need, and if it doesn't fit, you're bringing too much Since you're wearing a bike jersey, you'll also have a bit of storage on yourself too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles2go View Post
    OK, I'll share my "secret" in this regard. THESE

    For those of you link-shy, Andiamo cycling liners. Two of these weigh less than one pair of high quality cycling shorts and they dry out much faster. They're very well made too. I've had the same 3 pair many years and they still look and function like new.

    IMPORTANT: Then, wash the day's biking liner in the hotel sink along with the rest of the day's clothes, wring it all out, place it flat on a towel, roll the towel up and walk on the rolled up towel. Flip the towel by 1/4 turn and walk on it again. Unroll, drape the now damp clothes for the night. Very rarely seen this not result in completely dry clothes by morning.

    Cheers
    For below the waist wear I take one pair of baggy cycling shorts (no pad), two pairs of Rapha merino padded underwear, a pair of lightweight convertible trousers and some polyester/spandex running tights.

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    If I am camping or staying in a hotel I just take my underwear, socks and jersey into the shower with me and stomp on them, wring out well and hang them up to dry. If they aren't dry by morning I hang them on my saddlebag and they dry quickly as I ride. In a hotel the towel trick works well, I wring the clothes out and then put them inside a towel and wring that out too, twisting really hard. If for some reason I can't wear my baggy shorts I can ride in just the underwear because they look just like cycling shorts.....or I can ride in the shorts from my convertible trousers or the leggings

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    You don't need any cycling kit on a tour at all. You could do the whole tour in capris or convertable pants and wicking T's or lightweight button-up shirts if you wanted.

    So for a short credit card tour, one pair of cycling-specific shorts would be fine. And I'd leave the jersey at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    So for a short credit card tour, one pair of cycling-specific shorts would be fine. And I'd leave the jersey at home.
    I agree. For short or long trips, I take two long sleeve, zippered non-cycling jerseys as they are very practical and versatile. One to ride in and one to change into at the end of the day.

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    I'm a jersey geek. I like the pockets for my ID/Ins. Card/cash; and my cell phone...just in case I go down and in the process get separated from my bike.

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    I wash my cycling jersey and shorts every day. If you see the road grime washed off, you'll not tolerate unwashed cycling clothes. I usually have the guest house maid do the washing for me. Other wise, I'll look for area where college students live and there will be at least one shop that does laundry for students. I try to end my ride by noon, but not later than 2pm. This way, I have my clothes (not just cycling clothes) back by 6pm. If necessary, I'll do the washing in the wash basin myself, and they will be dry and ready next morning. I don't tour during the rainy season, and definitely not riding when it's raining. BTW this is in Thailand, where you can have your laundry done quickly, and cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    You don't need any cycling kit on a tour at all. You could do the whole tour in capris or convertable pants and wicking T's or lightweight button-up shirts if you wanted.

    So for a short credit card tour, one pair of cycling-specific shorts would be fine. And I'd leave the jersey at home.
    I think this is especially true when you consider the relatively low daily mileage the OP proposed for their trip.

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