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Old 08-18-14, 05:08 PM   #1
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Rim recommendation? Looking for something wide-ish

Been building up a Panasonic pro touring frame based bike. The rims on this thing are in need of replacement (someone put skinny mavic racing rims on it) and I'm looking for something tough that's a bit wider than normal (originally considering the velocity dyad)

Any other recommendations? I can do vintage or newer - just trying to find a good deal - I plan to run 28 to 35c tires and I hate the "balloon" effect I've experienced when running 35 knobbies on skinnier rims

I also have an extra 9 speed sram cassette laying around (brand new) so I'd like hubs compatible with that
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Old 08-18-14, 05:42 PM   #2
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SUN CR 18. Really goes well with a vintage build. 22.5mm wide. Strong, without too much weight. Bargain price.

http://harriscyclery.net/product/shi...ilver-3278.htm

These have 135mm spacing at the rear.
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Old 08-18-14, 06:17 PM   #3
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Wouldn't it be more cost effective converting to 700c - more tire types, tire sale, and folding tire options? I have 27 x 1/4 inch on my Sekine ($90 for the whole wheelset at REI) and kinda wish now I would have gone 700c for those reasons.
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Velocity Dyad is a good rim. They are a good compromise between weight and durability. We have them on three of our bikes: 2 touring, and a cyclocross/tourer. Between the 3 bikes we have over 15,000 miles on those wheels, with no problems.

I've mainly run 28 and 32 mm tires, but occasionally used 35 mm for a couple of shorter tours. I believe 28 mm tires are the smallest recommended width for the Dyad rims.

If you are planning on running a 9 speed your rear dropout width might be a little small. I believe that a 130 mm dropout is the minimum necessary for a 9 speed setup. Something to checkout.
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Id like to go with 700c for sure

I was able to squeeze in a 130mm rear no problem, I think 135 is probably fine too.

This looks like a good deal?

http://www.amazon.com/Sun-Shimano-CR.../dp/B0047IL758

How do you guys like the Alivio hubs?

At this point Im wondering if I should go with a used Dyad wheelset (maybe with Deore hubs) or this sun setup new.....

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Old 08-18-14, 09:37 PM   #6
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kawasakiguy37, I've used the same wheel set you linked to from Amazon, but from a different retailer, for the last three years and no problems. It's a typical bargain priced machine built wheel set so expect some retensioning and retruing.

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Id like to go with 700c for sure

I was able to squeeze in a 130mm rear no problem, I think 135 is probably fine too.

This looks like a good deal?

Amazon.com : Sun/Shimano CR18 Wheel Set 700c Silver : Bike Wheels : Sports & Outdoors

How do you guys like the Alivio hubs?

At this point Im wondering if I should go with a used Dyad wheelset (maybe with Deore hubs) or this sun setup new.....
Shameless plug: we're doing 100% hand built Dyad wheelsets right now for $199.99, incl. tape. No tensioning and retruing necessary. The hubs we're using are roughly on par with an Alivio hub.

Velocity - Dyad Touring Commuter Sport Wheelset 700c - *blemished*
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On my 1980 Schwinn Voyageur which I converted to 700cc and modern cassette hubs, I used 36 hole Sun CR 18 rims and Tiagra hubs and they built up to be very strong wheels for touring. Very inexpensive, probably $60 to $70 per wheel including double butted wheelsmith spokes.

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I just built a touring bike with Mavic A 719s, XT hubs, 36h. I'm a big guy at 6'7" and 250 lbs, so I can vouch for their sturdiness.
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Look at the Velocity Atlas and the Escapade rim from Velo-Orange. They look pretty tough.
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On my 1980 Schwinn Voyageur which I converted to 700cc and modern cassette hubs, I used 36 hole Sun CR 18 rims and Tiagra hubs and they built up to be very strong wheels for touring. Very inexpensive, probably $60 to $70 per wheel including double butted wheelsmith spokes.
Please clue me in where I can purchase a Tiagra rear hub, 36 butted WS spokes, nipples, Sun rim, and rim tape for $70. I'm paying too much.
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Niagara cycle in Buffalo: CR18 rims @ $23.78, Tiagra front hub $22.48, rear $35.70. Spokes $41 bag of 50. Free shipping on orders over $100. Of course, I built my wheels a couple of years ago, but you can still get reasonably close to my quoted price. Good luck.
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I have built wheels with Sun CR18 rims and Velocity Dyad (and Aeroheat - same extrusion). The Velocity rims are roughly twice the price, and very much easier/faster to build. Worth the extra $25- to me. For a stronger rim, Velocity offers the Atlas - much more $$ than the Dyad. The Dyad is lighter than the CR18, and more rigid, flatter and rounder. We have Dyads on our tandem.

All my ISO590 wheels are CR18.
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I have built wheels with Sun CR18 rims and Velocity Dyad (and Aeroheat - same extrusion). The Velocity rims are roughly twice the price, and very much easier/faster to build. Worth the extra $25- to me. For a stronger rim, Velocity offers the Atlas - much more $$ than the Dyad. The Dyad is lighter than the CR18, and more rigid, flatter and rounder. We have Dyads on our tandem.

All my ISO590 wheels are CR18.
On a budget, consider the NoBS as well. It's the same extrusion as the Atlas, minus the stainless eyelettes and fancy finishes. Holds up every bit as well. The Synergy would be a good choice as well -- lighter than the Dyad, and a more traditional box shape, for around the same price as the Dyad.
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