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    Mounting Tubus Duo to Specialized AWOL Comp

    Hi Everybody, I have a 2015 Specialized AWOL Comp. I want to take advantage of the dual, mid-fork, thru mounts. Has anyone mounted a Tubus Duo front rack to this bike? Spec. doesn't know, Tubus thinks it might (but does not know for sure) and if the Duo will not mount to the fork what other manufactures offer a front rack that will take advantage of the thru fork-blade mounts? (There is a brake cable tie-wrap mounting point just above the inner rack mount on the left fork blade that I am concerned may be in the way.)
    Has anyone actually mounted one of these racks to this bike and, if any, what modifications did you need to make?
    Thanks in advance for your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKJeff View Post
    Hi Everybody, I have a 2015 Specialized AWOL Comp. I want to take advantage of the dual, mid-fork, thru mounts. Has anyone mounted a Tubus Duo front rack to this bike? Spec. doesn't know, Tubus thinks it might (but does not know for sure) and if the Duo will not mount to the fork what other manufactures offer a front rack that will take advantage of the thru fork-blade mounts? (There is a brake cable tie-wrap mounting point just above the inner rack mount on the left fork blade that I am concerned may be in the way.)
    Has anyone actually mounted one of these racks to this bike and, if any, what modifications did you need to make?
    Thanks in advance for your help.
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    I have salsa down unders on my AWOL and they fit fine, I believe the design is very close to the Duos.


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    I installed Tubus' Tara and Vega racks on my AWOL Comp. Both went on easily, although I had to mount the Tara to the forward (dropout) eyelets to avoid interference with the disc brake caliper.


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    Salsa Down Under Front Rack

    Thanks Ed,
    From your picture and other photos from the Internet the Salsa Down Under could provide me with a solution for my AWOL. I have attached a photo clip of the upper mounting tabs on the Duo ... you can see the size of the tabs and thus the reason for my concern.
    I have had my AWOL since June and love the bike. It is named after my dog and will be my go-to touring bike. What kind of riding do you use your AWOL for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKJeff View Post
    Thanks Ed,
    From your picture and other photos from the Internet the Salsa Down Under could provide me with a solution for my AWOL. I have attached a photo clip of the upper mounting tabs on the Duo ... you can see the size of the tabs and thus the reason for my concern.
    I have had my AWOL since June and love the bike. It is named after my dog and will be my go-to touring bike. What kind of riding do you use your AWOL for?
    AKJeff Riding his AWOL
    Mine is pretty much an all rounder. I use it to commute to work, for weekend riding and plan to tour on it. I purchased the Down Under racks open package but new in the bargain bin of a LBS for $25 around a 8 months ago so when I put the AWOL together they were my natural choice. I really like the tubus racks but am having a hard time coming to terms with the cost but do have a Logo evo on my wish list. For now I have the $25 Blackburn TRX-1 Ultimate Touring Rack from Nashbar installed on the rear and must say the rack fit like it was made for the AWOL and is an excellent buy for the price but I don't like how narrow it is.

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    Note: the 2 bolts on opposing side of the fork-blades , and the 2 rack tubes with mountings to put the bolts through? [4th post]

    Its all to not have a Hoop over the wheel , Tara with the hoop only needs the outside mid fork bolts ..

    Either should work Tubus has a PDF of a dimensioned drawing on its website ... measure the bike and compare

    http://www.tubus.com/documents/1321271426_Duo.pdf

    http://www.tubus.com/documents/1323681771_Duo_BM.pdf

    Tara .. http://www.tubus.com/documents/1323681925_Tara_BM.pdf
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    If you are concerned that the cable tie bracket sticks out too far, how far is it? Would a couple of washers between the rack and fork push the rack out away from that cable tie bracket to provide clearance?

    On one of my bikes, I have to put three washers between both of the rear rack mounts and the dropouts to get the rack to fit right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN View Post
    If you are concerned that the cable tie bracket sticks out too far, how far is it? Would a couple of washers between the rack and fork push the rack out away from that cable tie bracket to provide clearance?

    On one of my bikes, I have to put three washers between both of the rear rack mounts and the dropouts to get the rack to fit right.
    That never even crossed my mind but yes it is a tight fit. The reason my cable is routed like it is is because I didn't like the way the cable ran to the hy\rd brakes using the lug.



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    Mark,
    Making an educated guess...you live in Denver? One of the things Specialized did for the AWOL was give it lots of eyelets, tabs, and brackets. The front dropouts having a forward and rear eyelet is one example. Have you noticed the right fork blade has a rubber grommet on the inside of the fork to pass wiring through if you wanted to run a dynamo hub?
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    Ed,
    I will be using a Logo Evo as a rear rack. I like the idea of the lower rail and thus lowering the center of gravity for the rear panniers or not. The Evo gives you the choice.

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    Ed,
    You are not alone in disliking the sequence of brake cable mounting tabs on the AWOL fork. My LBS only used the upper mount and ran the housing directly to the caliper. I feel using the lower mounting point puts too great a bend in the housing.
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    Bob,
    I have measured the AWOL fork and compared to the Duo drawings and the rack will bolt right on. However, the tie-wrap mounting tab on the fork looks to be in the way of the rack's inner mount fitting flat on the fork. Spacers are an option.
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    Wow, thank you everybody for all the helpful suggestions. I was hoping to find someone who actually had mounted the Duo rack to an AWOL, but your suggestions about other experiences have been useful.
    As I see it there are several paths to take: 1) Spacers, 2) Notch the Duo tab to fit around the mounting pad, 3) Remove the mounting pad from the fork. The mount is brazed onto the fork and is not an internal cast part of the fork. Carefully removing it (not using heat, but cutting it off mechanically) and refinishing the area might be a solution. Even though the tie-wrap mount is not being used and is brazed on the fork blade removing it will of course void the warranty. Cutting a notch in the Duo would also void the warranty. (Don't want to void the warranties, if it can be helped.)
    The final solution is to buy a Duo and, with rack in hand, mount it to the AWOL. After I do this I will be sure to make a full review on this post of how it went.
    AKJeff Riding his AWOL and ordering a Tubus Duo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKJeff View Post
    Mark,
    Making an educated guess...you live in Denver? One of the things Specialized did for the AWOL was give it lots of eyelets, tabs, and brackets. The front dropouts having a forward and rear eyelet is one example. Have you noticed the right fork blade has a rubber grommet on the inside of the fork to pass wiring through if you wanted to run a dynamo hub?
    AKJeff Riding his AWOL
    Really? Maybe it's a 2015 thing as my Jan 2014 fork doesn't have a rubber grommet on the inside, not that I have any intentions of putting a dynamo hub on the bike though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKJeff View Post
    Mark,
    Making an educated guess...you live in Denver? One of the things Specialized did for the AWOL was give it lots of eyelets, tabs, and brackets. The front dropouts having a forward and rear eyelet is one example. Have you noticed the right fork blade has a rubber grommet on the inside of the fork to pass wiring through if you wanted to run a dynamo hub?
    AKJeff Riding his AWOL
    Boulder, but close enough.

    Yes, my AWOL's fork has the rubber grommet for a dynamo wire. Oddly enough, my fork's crown is not drilled for a fender, though.
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    Spec. disappointed me with the lack of fork crown fender mounting on the AWOL. Guess we will just have to use a daruma or L-bracket. I have been looking at some beautiful Velo-Orange fenders and they have some excellent mounting instructions (like what is a daruma and how is it used to mount a front fender.) Velo Orange Team AWOL says not to use plastic fenders on an AWOL. They say every time you do a baby panda dies. And we wouldn't want to be responsible for that.

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    MilehighMark just wrote that his AWOL also had the grommet...so it must be a model year thing.

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    Zip Tie fitting, where it sits, is probably Fine ... with a Hydro hose. rather than a Cable Disc brake..

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    The cable tie mount isn't really that important. If it is really is in the way of mounting your rack, just cut it off with a grinder/hacksaw etc and throw some paint over it....

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    Bob,
    Agreed. However, the disc brake that is currently installed on this AWOL is the Avid BB7 ( a cable actuated system.) When my LBS assembled the bike this tie-wrap mount was not used because of the difficult bend in the cable housing it would have caused. While I have yet to use a bike with hydraulic disc brakes I have heard a few horror stories about faults and maintenance issues. For instance (according to the manufacture) with some hydro systems you should not allow the bike to be inverted or the system will get air in the lines. Repairing a puncture along the side of the road might be awkward. For the type of touring I intend to do (Transamerica and transcontinental in foreign countries) I am just more comfortable with the mechanical cable type brakes. (I do intend to add a MTB with hydros to my stable, but that riding will be much closer to home or a shop.) BTW where along the coast are you at, I live inland in Walla Walla, WA.
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    SparkyGA,
    You are absolutely correct. The tie-wrap mount is not even used because it would cause a difficult bend in the cable housing. One of the solutions I have considered is just that, cut the thing off and throw some paint over the spot. I hesitate to do that and tempt the warranty gods if a defect were to come out in the fork, Spec. would surely point to my modification and deny my claim. Still, the tie-wrap mount is just brazed on, not an internal cast part of the fork. (If the truth be known the braze job wasn't that good, at least from the appearance, there is a gap on the bottom that I would have expected to be filled.)
    This all may become an exercise in frustration. I have yet to come across anyone who has actually mounted a Duo to an AWOL. I may need to give in and buy one and make the attempt myself. I have discovered the Tubus Tara, with the same weight capacity, will fit nicely on my AWOL.

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    I have mounted my Duo to the DT fairly easily, just needed some spacers which came in the form of presta nuts. Having an extra set of hands is always handy as well so maybe get a bike buddy and some of your favorite beverages and work on it. Sometimes the best way to find out is to try it out and if it works boom and if not you can provide good useful knowledge. I wish I could give better advice but most of it would be the standard stuff for mounting any rack or really anything.

    I did find it odd that the rear rack used torx bolts while the front didn't but I guess the rear is going to generally have more weight and need to be tightened more.
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    just flip it over to fixed and forget about brakes. check out the documentary "premium rush" for more info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
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    I did find it odd that the rear rack used torx bolts while the front didn't but I guess the rear is going to generally have more weight and need to be tightened more.
    I had forgotten that my Logo EVO came with Torx bolts. Fortunately I had some M5 bolts that took a 4mm allen wrench handy that I could use. Thus, I did not have to waste time to buy new bolts.

    I recommend blue locktite on all rack and all kickstand bolts. A couple tours ago I had to give one of my spare bolts that I carry on my frame (threaded in a frame fitting from the back side as a storage location) to give to a friend who lost one of his rack bolts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN View Post
    I had forgotten that my Logo EVO came with Torx bolts. Fortunately I had some M5 bolts that took a 4mm allen wrench handy that I could use. Thus, I did not have to waste time to buy new bolts.

    I recommend blue locktite on all rack and all kickstand bolts. A couple tours ago I had to give one of my spare bolts that I carry on my frame (threaded in a frame fitting from the back side as a storage location) to give to a friend who lost one of his rack bolts.
    I might have to put some blue loctite on them bolts. I didn't have problems with my old rack but a good preventative measure is never a bad thing. I also have some extra bolts just in case.
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    just flip it over to fixed and forget about brakes. check out the documentary "premium rush" for more info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
    I have mounted my Duo to the DT fairly easily, just needed some spacers which came in the form of presta nuts. Having an extra set of hands is always handy as well so maybe get a bike buddy and some of your favorite beverages and work on it. Sometimes the best way to find out is to try it out and if it works boom and if not you can provide good useful knowledge. I wish I could give better advice but most of it would be the standard stuff for mounting any rack or really anything.

    I did find it odd that the rear rack used torx bolts while the front didn't but I guess the rear is going to generally have more weight and need to be tightened more.
    Torx fittings often have larger heads than allen-style fittings. Given that space/clearance is reduced on the front racks/low-riders, it's not surprising that allen fittings would be used in front.
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