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pitboss 06-27-05 06:43 AM

Show of hands, or are you to busy practicing Madisons?
 
All right, who here is new to the track this year?
Which velodrome?
Who/what got you started?
Your thoughts so far?

Me:
-First year back since 97
-Ed Rudolph
-Some coworkers in CO, but this year - Some weird guy at Yojimbo's garage.
-So far - I think I may need to make some bike adjustments as my friggin neck hurts like hell the day after. Or my posture sucks. Getting back on the track is nice - it is pretty much my first year all over again. I am gaining more confidence in handling and I find myself VERY concerned about this - moreso than speed right now. The first time I spent on the track was all about, as the guys and gals I went with said, was pedal fast/turn left. No strategy or drills beforehand. I have been going and watching the Thursday night races and these have shown the community spirit as well as competitive spirits that exist within this facet of cycling. Plus, that same weird guy from Yojimbo's does a great job em-ceeing. Ha...

auroch 06-27-05 08:03 AM

- I am. I had been to the old track here in Northbrook & to Encino, CA, but this has
been my first year trying out racing

- Ed Rudolph. I'm going to hit Kenosha, WI at least once (road trip!)

- Marcus & The entire Aussie team's performance during the World's in LA

- Awesome. Add to my cycling vocab the term "wall burn." I've been doing the
development training nights and have learned a lot. Not just to improve as a
biker, but also to learn more about the sport & gain a better appreciation. Also
funny how my "flick off cabs & sprint" times have improved in line with my
flying-200

jeff

lala 06-27-05 08:34 AM

All right, who here is new to the track this year?
I am.

Which velodrome?
7-11 Olympic Velodrome, Colorado Springs

Who/what got you started?
I moved out here and was happy to give the poseur pista some use on the track.
Also, there was a women's clinic at the track which really broke the ice: I don't know if I could have handled the 45 degree banks without some handholding!

Your thoughts so far?
Oy, I'm weak and have no lungs! :) I hope to race next year, but unfortunately there are quite a few 'master' women at this track, so I'll probably be DFL.
Skills to work on: manuevering around the track with other people.

I recommend the track to all cyclists...I haven't gotten any takers, tho. :(

absntr 06-27-05 08:48 AM

- New to the track.

- Ed Rudoplh/Northbrook Velodrome, Northbrook, Illinois.

- A combination of that same weird guy at Yojimbo's and the DCC Track Sunday regulars 165, stickerguy)

- Love it. At first I think I expected a lot. And it wasn't quite the "cartharsis" as soupless put it, that I wanted it to be. But like riding a fixedgear, after a while, you suddenly get it and it all makes sense. There's more of that zen feel when you're out following or chasing a line and being able to just concentrate on the way you're riding without having to worry about silly cars and angry drivers. It feels liberating to be able to go fast if you want to, slow down and ride with fellow people without having to worry about the dangers of riding in the street. Riding streets is becoming overrated and a riskier and riskier business. Which is probably why I'm so desperate to head to the track when I can.

lala 06-27-05 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by absntr
- It feels liberating to be able to go fast if you want to, slow down and ride with fellow people without having to worry about the dangers of riding in the street. Riding streets are becoming overrated and a riskier and riskier business. Which I probably why I'm so desperate to head to the track when I can.


Yes...I was going to express a similar sentiment. Plus: no potholes! :)

auk 06-27-05 09:02 AM

-Longtime watcher, first year track rider

-Major Taylor Velodrome, Indianapolis, IN. When the opportunity allows, Mike Walden Velodrome, Rochester Hills, MI. 33 degree vs. 44 is no laughing matter. Felt like riding in a bowl versus a platter.

- Getting a bit more time on my hands now that grad school is done and the racing legs are coming around.

-Love the feel, love the frredom, love the purity. Intervals on the track take on a whole new meaning than on the road. You can be in the paceline from pain hell for as long as you wish, and when you need a break, you drift up for a few laps and then drop back in to do it all again.

harlot 06-27-05 10:20 AM

Who here is new to the track this year?
<raise hand> See previous trip report thread.

Which velodrome?
Marymoor, Redmond, WA

Who/what got you started? Your thoughts so far?
It actually had nothing to do with learning track (although their have been a few not-so-subconscious influences). I was just looking for other women to ride with and saw this clinic advertised. Thought I would meet some other people and learn some new skills, but it turned out more like Oprah goes to the velodrome. Tons of encouragement and fun and new challenges, the other women riders were fabulous. I like this track atmosphere way more than the road races I've done in the past. It seems like everyone has a chance to succeed and do their best. I did end up becoming enamored of the track racing aspect because it's just you connected to the bike sans brakes or derailleurs, all your power is transmitted through the bike onto an incredably fast surface. A very pure feeling.

skitbraviking 06-28-05 09:07 AM

All right, who here is new to the track this year? Moi!
Which velodrome? Rudolph
Who/what got you started? Some beotch got me into it.
Your thoughts so far? It's the closest thing to soaring through the clouds on a bicycle we will ever experience.

yonderboy 06-28-05 10:01 AM

I'm new to the velodrome, but going fast and turning left is old hat for me. This is just a different medium.

I ride at the Alpenrose velodrome in Portland, Oregon. No rain = no brakes! It's been a rainy season this year. The days I can get away from work on time to make the races it seems are always the days that it rains. But they had good weather for the 6-day last week.

I was a competitive runner in middle distance track events for about 7 years, but my knees are slowly going out on me. Unfortunately, I really like racing, so I needed to find a new way to get that feeling again. The abundance of street track bikes on the market right now is making it affordable to get into track racing without a major bank roll. Cost was always a problem back when I was first starting out racing. Shoes cost a bit less than a track bike. ;)

So far, I've just been watching and listening a lot. I'm still into the semi-distance racing, which has been working with my schedule. I ride a lot of time trials. My Kilo time is coming down. I hope to be under 1:20 by the end of this season. My other goals are to ride a Miss and Out, a points race, and a matched sprint. My handling needs some work and I still have problems keeping high in the corners. Long cranks and long legs with steep banks don't mix very well. So for safety, I'm going to have to work to get into those mass start races.

gilby 06-28-05 10:54 AM

New to the track this year? Yup.
Which velodrome? NSC in Blaine, MN
Who/what got you started? I blame superrookie and ajkloss42
Your thoughts so far? I'm still at it after sliding down the banking and getting all the slivers picked out of my leg, so I guess that's saying something. And I got a lovely chrome Plum Vainqueur frame that's gonna get built up!

South Fulcrum 06-28-05 11:11 AM

This is my first year.
Dick Lane
This forum
It is a rather remarkable feeling. I don't know of many things like it. I haven't started racing yet. I don't think I will this season. I've been reminded that just becaue I ride my bike everywhere does not mean I'm in shape.

Judah 06-28-05 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [165]
All right, who here is new to the track this year?
Which velodrome?
Who/what got you started?
Your thoughts so far?

In order:
- Me
- Hellyer
- Fixedpip
- Lots o fun. The main thing I've noticed is that my bike handling skills have gotten better. Drafting, pacing, and overall handling have really improved. It's a nice way to ride hard without the risk of being hit by a motor vehicle. One thing that bothers me is that Hellyer is out in the middle of nowhere. I wish I didn't have to drive to get out there...

ohmyspokes 06-29-05 05:38 AM

- First year racing on the track, though I took development classes last year
- T-Town
- Racing teammates
- Addicted

Paul And Pista 06-30-05 09:04 AM

- I'm hoping to get to the drome this weekend to try it out, just for fun (I'm told this is possible).
- Also T-Town.
- Basically this entire forum, with special thanks to the thread with the pictures from the DCC's visit to Northbrook.
- I'll have to get back to you in a few days. But I can tell you that I'm hoping to set the world record for slowest/ugliest lap. I really hope my new drops and stem get here in time because this just won't be as fun with horns.

ohmyspokes 06-30-05 10:54 AM

Hey P&P, check out the calendar on www.lvvelo.org for public track times.
2005 Season -> Public Access

There are National Qualifiers this Saturday, in place of the usual amateur racing. Actually, it looks like all of Saturday has been reserved. Sunday is open til 5, though. Have fun. There are also crits going on at the Rodale Fitness Park across the street from the velo on Sunday morning. It's a unique closed course with many, varied vantage points...ideal for spectating.

baxtefer 06-30-05 12:20 PM

- I took my intro class in February, but now that it's summer, velo season is over.
- Burnaby veodrome (200m 42 degrees, 1st indoor 'drome in North America)
- After riding fixed on the street I had to give it a try
- So much fun. I'm going to be a regular this fall, just as long as i finish building my bike.

Paul And Pista 06-30-05 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohmyspokes
Hey P&P, check out the calendar on www.lvvelo.org for public track times.
2005 Season -> Public Access...

Yep, I'm planning on going late Sunday morning some time. If you ever feel like meeting up for some fun races, PM me or some such.

cicadashell 07-05-05 07:06 AM

hey all - took my first spin around the mike walden velodrome in rochester (mi) last saturday - way too much fun! this is a 200 meter track with 44 banking on the turns, which looks impossible but is not so bad after a few times around.

the people there are as nice as you could want, full of energy and patience. we did a bunch of handling drills, lots a paceline practice, some flying 200s - hours of total fun! i can't wait to get back there.

it also gave me an interesting lesson in the whole form/function argument, which comes up from time to time in the fixed gear forum. in all honestly i like to fuss over details of my track bike's appearance, but i see now that i really don't need to work on my bike that much - i need to work on me. there are all kinds of body adjustments, some subtle (cocking your head on the turns), some not so subtle (hands forward in the bends, forearms horizontal, elbows loose). but you have to be able to breathe while all this is happening, too. and oh yeah, don't forget to keep pedaling in the turns, especially if you're going up the bank.

ooh yeah, i'm getting excited just thinking about it. everybody's invited, come on down to the track, it'll blow your natural mind!

pitboss 07-05-05 08:39 AM

cicada-
I met someone this past weekend that frequent the velo just outside Detroit - he said it is a very acoomodating facility. He also HIGHLY recommends to anyone that can get out to the new London Velo in Canada to do so - fast and happening for sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cicadashell
it also gave me an interesting lesson in the whole form/function argument - i need to work on me.

couldn't agree more with you here regarding my own abilities. With practice...

And here's me riding 18 degrees like a sucker...(actually, I am content in getting what I can for a velo. we are extremely lucky to have one so close!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cicadashell
don't forget to keep pedaling in the turns, especially if you're going up the bank.

Rule three of Track Club...ubiquitous in its magnificence and importance.

Paul And Pista 07-05-05 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [165]
couldn't agree more with you here regarding my own abilities. With practice...

I'll definitely third that thought.

First time in the drome was amazingly fun! The banks were a little intimidating at first, but by the second lap I was enjoying myself swooping down from the top of the bank to the bottom of the track when coming out of a turn. Supposedly Trexlertown has 28 degree banks... so I can't really imagine what 42 degrees must look like :eek: . But I should be back there in about 2 weeks - hopefully with a couple friends next time around.

cicadashell 07-05-05 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [165]
I met someone this past weekend that frequent the velo just outside Detroit - he said it is a very acoomodating facility. He also HIGHLY recommends to anyone that can get out to the new London Velo in Canada to do so - fast and happening for sure.

yeah, the forest city velodrome looks like major fun, also. london is a bit of a hike from a2, however (nearly three hours assuming no problems at the border). since it is indoors it may become a destination during the colder months, if i've become totally addicted by then ("if" - ha! that's a good one. "the first ride is free," where do you suppose they picked up that technique, eh?).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul and Pista
The banks were a little intimidating at first, but by the second lap I was enjoying myself swooping down from the top of the bank to the bottom of the track when coming out of a turn. Supposedly Trexlertown has 28 degree banks... so I can't really imagine what 42 degrees must look like .

it looks totally impossible. but after a little practice you will be swooping like a peregrine falcon!

yonderboy 07-05-05 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul And Pista
Supposedly Trexlertown has 28 degree banks... so I can't really imagine what 42 degrees must look like

I'll pimp my home velodrome a bit. The Alpenrose Velodrome is about 268 meters with a 43 degree bank. The minimum speed to stay up in the corners is around 15mph. For bigger riders, like me, that number is a little higher. It's a blast to ride, anyway.

Coming out of turn 2
Over the top
A bit of perspective...

absntr 07-05-05 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yonderboy
I'll pimp my home velodrome a bit. The Alpenrose Velodrome is about 268 meters with a 43 degree bank. The minimum speed to stay up in the corners is around 15mph. For bigger riders, like me, that number is a little higher. It's a blast to ride, anyway.

Those are quite some banks. You can go pretty slow out here at Northbrook on the banks and work on your spin/rotation.

cicadashell 07-07-05 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [165]
And here's me riding 18 degrees like a sucker...(actually, I am content in getting what I can for a velo. we are extremely lucky to have one so close!)

i'm not trying to induce bank envy - it's just something you have to get used to, and i'm sure y'all would get used to it quickly. i suppose (not having ridden on any other tracks) the biggest difference would be the effect on speed of going up or down the bank.

and anyway it all pales next to the raw power thing - that is, the realization by bozos like me that, while i can get around the track without sliding to the apron, in reality i have no legs at all, whatsoever.

lala 07-07-05 11:24 AM

Yup, banks in the 40s rock! Very scary at first...I just hope if I slip, I'll have the smarts to speed up and not freak out!


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