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lala 07-22-05 01:15 PM

So what's the deal with tubular tires? Who has experience with them? Our track manager said: it's ok ride train on clinchers, but they really prefer you to have tubies if you race. (I didn't get a chance to question him.)

edit: here's the park tools guide to mounting tubular tyres.

pitboss 07-22-05 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fixedpip
That said, for most tracks Clinchers are great training and racing tires. I've used both Vittoria Ultra speed (now replaced by something else) and Contie Supersonics clinchers which are both lightweight, have a high thread count and ride on the track really well. I was told to look for tires that can take more than 125 PSI and these got recommended to me.

Now, I've just switched to tubulars mainly because I got a great deal on a bike with a tubular wheelset.

See for plenty of information on tubulars vs clinchers:
http://www.fixedgearfever.com/module...0ba1a2919dfa7d
and
http://www.fixedgearfever.com/module...0ba1a2919dfa7d

I would suggest going down to your local track for a beginner session (you can rent bikes at most tracks) and talk to the instructors. They can probably give you some really tips specific to the track you're going to ride on most. Plus you'll also have a base line for comparison.

Found this, and it is pretty much to the point.

lala 07-22-05 02:38 PM

I'd be afraid to be responsible for myself and others gluing one together! Scary!

skydive69 07-22-05 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lala
So what's the deal with tubular tires? Who has experience with them? Our track manager said: it's ok ride train on clinchers, but they really prefer you to have tubies if you race. (I didn't get a chance to question him.)

edit: here's the park tools guide to mounting tubular tyres.

I love tubulars - they are smoother, faster, and safer (they react better in a blowout situation). Having said that, I run them only for racing (Continental Competitions) because I don't want a tire sticking out of my jersey pocket, and I don't want the hassle of gluing. When I practice with my tubulars and racing wheelset, the only tool I carry is a cell phone!

pitboss 07-22-05 03:29 PM

skydive -
as far as road repairs for tubulars - I have a question:
I know poeple may carry an extra tire, but what about the gluing portion for the replacement tire? Or do you simply pull the flat one off and dry mount the new one?

skydive69 07-22-05 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [165]
skydive -
as far as road repairs for tubulars - I have a question:
I know poeple may carry an extra tire, but what about the gluing portion for the replacement tire? Or do you simply pull the flat one off and dry mount the new one?

I stopped with a club member who flatted a tubular the other day. He simply ripped off the old one, and the residual glue on the rim apparently is enough to fairly securely hold the tire on for the rest of the ride. He indicated that at the end of the ride, he would remount it and let the new glue cure for 24 hours. I probably would not be crazy about racing a tire mounted that way because turning forces could be a problem. The deal with tubulars, is when you get them, you need to dry mount them on a rim to stretch them prior to use. I know when I bought my Zipp 999 wheelset, the dealer dry-mounted both tubulars for about a day before taking them off the wheels and gluing them back on.

pitboss 07-22-05 04:18 PM

yeah - the dry mount/stretching is defeinitely a req. What glue? Anyone ever try the glue strips?

Ceya 07-22-05 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [165]
skydive -
as far as road repairs for tubulars - I have a question:
I know poeple may carry an extra tire, but what about the gluing portion for the replacement tire? Or do you simply pull the flat one off and dry mount the new one?

165 ,

Yeah its me. Just pull off the old one and mount the new one. Just make sure you have a pump that can give you good pressure. I don't reglue mine unless the glue is almost gone.

In the rain or snow make sure you get some glue on later because water makes it slip off sometimes. I have messered and raced them for 20 yrs so I speak from experience as you know.

You can ride on a flat with tubulars , I ridden many times and messenger with flat no time to change with 10 runs on your back and ridden 50 miles back on a training ride.

Mounting them get easier as you do it. there is a quick way to mount and I don't wait 24hrs either to ride. My call on the latter.

S/F<
CEYA!

pitboss 07-22-05 08:07 PM

nice - I remember you saying your experience with them as a messenger. Good info. Glad you haven't left us completely!
Thanks again CEYA!

KirkeIsWaiting 07-22-05 08:22 PM

I run tubulars on my Peugeot and always have.
I love 'em. Never had a flat, they're smooth and fast..they keep the proper inflation.
And I've gotten plenty of miles out of them.
My first experience with clinchers on the new, two flats in two days.
Road debris, chance. Who knows.

Ceya 07-23-05 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceya
165 ,

Yeah its me. Just pull off the old one and mount the new one. Just make sure you have a pump that can give you good pressure. I don't reglue mine unless the glue is almost gone.

In the rain or snow make sure you get some glue on later because water makes it slip off sometimes. I have messengered and raced them for 20 yrs so I speak from experience as you know.

You can ride on a flat with tubulars , I ridden many times and messenger with flat no time to change with 10 runs on your back and ridden 50 miles back on a training ride.

Mounting them get easier as you do it. there is a quick way to mount and I don't wait 24hrs either to ride. My call on the latter.

S/F<
CEYA!


i said i will post now and then...

pitboss 07-23-05 02:37 PM

Sweet! Thanks Don and Ceya~


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