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TimArchy 07-27-05 11:02 AM

road hub on the track
 
I recently came across an old high flange campy record front road hub laced to a tubular rim. Is there any reason I shouldn't use this wheel on the track (with a bolt on skewer)?
Are campy's track hubs any different than the road hubs other than the axle?

thanks
tim

11.4 07-27-05 05:16 PM

It's OK but not great. Those bolt-on skewers dont have the same grip that a bolt-on hub has, but for occasional use you can get away with it. Most referees will let it pass. The track and road hubs from that vintage are generally the same and starting out, you don't need to worry about it. It's not something I'd do personally any longer, because hollow quick release axles tend to flex and bind more, and sometimes simply bend (the metal in the old Nuovo Record/Super Record axles wasn't the greatest), and You can find yourself in a situation where the track is putting a lot of torque on your hub. But people do it and I've never seen it screw up in any catastrophic way.

TimArchy 07-28-05 07:47 AM

how about swaping out the axles? would it require more than just getting an axle and rebuilding the hub? should i move this to the mechanics forum? how much wood could a woodchuck chuck?

tim

11.4 07-28-05 03:08 PM

The axles aren't interchangeable, and your hub is worth enough not to bollix it up like that. Cost-wise you're better off getting a hub like a Dura Ace low-flange or a Suzue Pro Max (loose bearing version) and sell off the Campy front road hub (high flange road hubs command a good premium these days if in decent shape). There are plenty of used front track hubs with tubulars on eBay as well if you don't mind shopping there. Or just use the fixed quick release skewers as you suggested originally.

trespasser 07-29-05 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 11.4
The axles aren't interchangeable, and your hub is worth enough not to bollix it up like that.

Not true. I have done this, and axles are interchangable, so are cones and locknuts. they are basically same hubs, one has solid axle and the other has grease port and hollow axle. it probably cost about $20 using EAI axle and nuts, genuine campy parts cost probably twice.

sabretech2001 07-30-05 03:05 PM

The axles, cones, washers, and locknuts are absolutely interchangable! You need to get a solid 9x26 axle, which is a fairly regular item on eBay, and a set of track nuts, which are not. EAI makes 'em, as well as Campy. Wheels Mfg. makes or used to make a good quality replacement axle.
Last time I checked, Bicycle Classics has a complete Campagnolo front track axle set for $32-38, I forget exactly what. You get the whole magilla: axle, fixing nuts, cones, spacers, and locknuts.

TimArchy 08-02-05 01:17 PM

well, for good or not, I took it to my lbs and one of the mechanics had an old campy front track axle (with nuts!) laying around. he switched it out no problem. He said that the only possible problem woud be if the axle didn't have the same threads as the cones/locknuts. said it was a matter of production years. Aparently there was no problem.

thanks for all the responces. See you on the track.

tim

BettyBump 08-04-05 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by 11.4

The axles aren't interchangeable, and your hub is worth enough not to bollix it up like that.

Not true. I have done this, and axles are interchangable, so are cones and locknuts. they are basically same hubs, one has solid axle and the other has grease port and hollow axle. it probably cost about $20 using EAI axle and nuts, genuine campy parts cost probably twice.

The axles are interchangeable, I also have done this. I think it costs more than $20 though, EAI axles are not cheap, and most shops sell them as a set with the cones and lock nuts. You can use the cone nuts and lock nuts you already have, but you need a new axle and new track nuts.


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