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Old 12-02-05, 03:01 PM   #1
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Hoods at the track

Is there any consensus on running hoods at the track (from a rule/safety standpoint). I've started riding at the local track (on a loaner bike), and I'd like to start using mine, but the only bars I have are taped with hoods for a front brake. Is there a general rule against just pulling the brake off and leaving hoods/bar intack (ie: is it necessary to travel with a second bar and do a switch out when I get there).

Just wondering if there's a general vibe against it (or a specific rule), or if it tends to be case by case depending on the track.

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only beef i'd have is losing peripheral vision
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Old 12-02-05, 09:15 PM   #3
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ha...classic.

All I can think is that you might get the lever tied up in someone else's gear, etc, but I don't know how likely it is....
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... or if it tends to be case by case depending on the track.
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and you can't do sanctioned races with 'em
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Really? Where's it say that? It says you can't use bullhorns except for TTs and that you can't use brakes on the track. I see nowhere that says you can't use brake hoods themselves.
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Old 12-02-05, 09:38 PM   #6
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"The handlebar shall be made in one piece and be a maximum 500 mm across (distance measured
at the extremities of the grips)."

http://www.uci.ch/imgArchive/Rules/3trac-E.pdf

page 56 (sorry, it's a pdf)
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Old 12-02-05, 09:58 PM   #7
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Those are regulations for a motor-pacing moped.
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hoods=gangstas
so when I am on the track, hoods are allowed
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from the Kissena track rules......

9) Nothing is allowed on the bike. Just frame - bars - seat - and wheels.

http://www.kissena.info/track/info/rules.html
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Yeah, but the Kissena rules also states..

11) ... Bad sportmanship will not be tolerated at any level. Fines will be awarded to offenders. Repeat offenders will be terminated.


When was the last time someone was terminated at kissena???
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I've actually seen a few people get fined and/or kicked off the track at Kissena.
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hey brad, i have one of your stickers via MSNGR in chicago, i'll take a pic of it soon.

brake hoods, uh check with the local track manager?
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Is there any consensus on running hoods at the track (from a rule/safety standpoint). I've started riding at the local track (on a loaner bike), and I'd like to start using mine, but the only bars I have are taped with hoods for a front brake. Is there a general rule against just pulling the brake off and leaving hoods/bar intack (ie: is it necessary to travel with a second bar and do a switch out when I get there).

Just wondering if there's a general vibe against it (or a specific rule), or if it tends to be case by case depending on the track.

Cheers
Are you talkin about London or do you know of one closer. A little off topic I know but your the first person Ive seen posting thats somewhat in my area. Im in Stratford and the only one who rides fixed. The reason l ask is the weather is bad in the winter and I hate those 1hr whiteouts back end forth.
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While I'm pretty sure my local track wouldn't let you use them, these are pretty cool:
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No hoods at the track ... the spectators would have a hard time figuring out who is who.
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Those are regulations for a motor-pacing moped.
oops, my bad.

here's what usac says "(d) The handlebar ends shall be solidly plugged and attachments thereto shall be fashioned in such a way as to minimize danger without impairing steering. Handlebars used for steering with ends, features, or attachments that extend forward or upward or that provide support for other than the the rider's hands are permitted only in time trial and pursuit events (not in Team Sprint);"

from page 27 here http://www.usacycling.org/forms/2005_USCF_rulebook.pdf
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Which seems to suggest that they're track legal, but just for TTs.

Of course that doesn't really answer the original question which really comes back to whatever the house rules are. I suspect many tracks will not allow them as track managers tend to have a more conservative interpretation of "track bike" than UCI. (See also the discussion about road conversions at the track.)
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I have used hoods(brake leavers) on the track but for training only. You cannot race with them on your bike.

Doing messenger work with them..priceless.


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Think of the extra drag they create! That's why I don't run them on any of my bikes, even on the street!
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Think of the extra support climbing,sprinting and carrying trash on them..again priceless.

good for practicing pursuits when your bike is not there to train on..

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Think of the extra support climbing,sprinting and carrying trash on them..again priceless.
I carry trash in one of these. Once you switch, you'll never go back.

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I carry trash in one of these. Once you switch, you'll never go back.

good one BT.

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Kissena and Penrose are both tracks in the hood...
But "hoods at the track"? I thought this might be a thread about racists and velodromes...
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