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Old 12-27-05, 04:23 PM   #1
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Stayers Racing

Here is a cool picture........




I love the stayers race at 6days. Take a glimpse at the motor...the dude is standing up...24inch front wheel on the track bike...hot damn!
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Old 12-27-05, 04:58 PM   #2
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up...24inch front wheel on the track bike...hot damn!
And forks turned backwards giving monster trail.
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Old 12-27-05, 05:52 PM   #3
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And some impressive gear inches....

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Check out how the sidewalls of the tyres are taped to the wheels.

Best thing they ever did was kick that corrupt anachorism of an event out of the World Championships.
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Check out how the sidewalls of the tyres are taped to the wheels.

Best thing they ever did was kick that corrupt anachorism of an event out of the World Championships.

Yep....unless you were Belgian, German or Danish it was a complete mystery of an event. You know those ancient BMW's that the pacers ride virtually standing up have no mufflers? So it's not only a 74kmh average, but it's deafening as well!
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Yep....unless you were Belgian, German or Danish it was a complete mystery of an event.
No mystery at all. Pay off the oppositions moto riders - you win.

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You know those ancient BMW's that the pacers ride virtually standing up have no mufflers? So it's not only a 74kmh average, but it's deafening as well!
Exactly. The old man was at the worlds in 93 when one of those big suckers crashed. Back wheel spinning, motor still going, half the track chewed up (took an hour to repair), greasy looking moto rider with 70's porno moustache sprawled out on the ground - the whole thing looked unprofessional. Dad and his mate had passes to the centre of the track - his mate actually switched the thing off before it killed someone.
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i just love how blatantly rigged it is.

plus. it is all old racers driving those things anyways....

derny races are exciting...but they are nothing compared to stayers racing.
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Hi,
I am glad you enjoyed yourself

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
(human and motor) events, and was able to 'stay' at high speed for long periods.

Paul Spender (Derny Sport UK)

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The sport has moved on and the above event was not blatantly rigged as you point out!

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
(human and motor) events, and was able to 'stay' at high speed for long periods.

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No mystery at all. Pay off the oppositions moto riders - you win.

Lol......too true. Danny Clark was world champ in 89, I think...
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Danny Clark (Australia)
Professional stayers World Champion in 1988 and 1991,
finished 2nd in 1985 and 1987 and 3rd in 1990

European Stayer Champion 1988.

World Derny Champion 1984, 1985, 1986, 1988 1989.
2nd 1987 3rd 1990.
The World Derny Championship ran from 1978 to 1990.

European Derny Champion 1985, 1986, 1990
2nd 1987 & 2nd 1989

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
(human and motor) events, and was able to 'stay' at high speed for long periods.

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Danny Clark (Australia)
Professional stayers World Champion in 1988 and 1991,
finished 2nd in 1985 and 1987 and 3rd in 1990

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Thanks...memory ain't what it used to be.
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Maybe that event above wasn't rigged...but judging by the history of stayers racing......

lol.
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Ok then I have a question for you Which Stayer won 7 World Championships?

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
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Ok then I have a question for you Which Stayer won 7 World Championships?

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Would have to be Carsten Podlesch?

If not, I have absolutely no idea.
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"CLUE" The Stayer was British?

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
(human and motor) events, and was able to 'stay' at high speed for long periods.

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Nup....no idea.

Malcolm Elliott??





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Old 12-29-05, 03:40 PM   #18
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Malc never rode any stayers racers

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
(human and motor) events, and was able to 'stay' at high speed for long periods.

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Here is the answer

Leon Meredith (Great Britain)
7 x Amateur Stayers World Champion in 1904, 1905, 1907, 1908, 1909, 1911 and 1913.
Leon was born on the 02-02- 1883 in London a member of the Bath Road Club, and died in a skiing accident in Switserland on the 27-01-1930 46 years.
Leon is also mentioned in the Guinness Book of Records.

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
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Malcolm Elliott??






Wrong stayer event ed!!!
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For all those they never did it or have even never seen a Stayers race, but think they know it all, can I tell you that there are still motorpaced races in several countries, even in Russia & in South Africa.

Stayersarchive Paul Spender (Great Britain) http://imageevent.com/dernysportuk

Dernysport UK (Great Britain) : http://www.dernysportuk.com

British Pacing Association (Great Britain) : http://www.bpa.builtfree.org

Stayeren in Nederland (Holland) : http://www.achterdegrotemotoren.nl

Steherrennen im Forst (Germany) : http://renegierth.re.funpic.de

Stayer Oliver Vrchoticky (Austria) : http://www.stayer.de

Le Fondus du Demi-Fond (France) : http://monsite.wanadoo.fr/fondus.du.demi-fond

Le Demi-Fond en France (France) : http://monsite.wanadoo.fr/fondus.du.demi-fond2

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Yep....unless you were Belgian, German or Danish it was a complete mystery of an event.

Yeah, some seems to know it all.
Don't tell this to Danny Clark - 3 times world champion !!!!!!!!!!!! and winner of several other medals in motorpaced races.

In the first place you have to follow the motor with a speed of 65 till 75 km/hr, in a race of 60 minutes, pushing a gear of 65, 66, 67, 68 or more x 14, 15 or 16 sprockets.
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Following Classic 1 they All were corrupt ???????

Graeme French (Australia)
World Champion professional stayers 1956, 3rd place in 1957.
3rd place European Stayer championships 1955 and 1956.
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Umm, what is your point? The stayer event was discontinued as a world championship event because the UCI felt it was corrupt, anachoristic and an embarrassment. Posting pics of Australians who won rainbow jerseys in that event does not change that fact, even though the demi-fond was always widely recognised as being an extremely tough and highly skilled discipline.

Ask Danny Clark (who lived in Belgium for 20 years BTW) about some of the stayer WC's he didn't win.

Thanks for posting those great old pictures and the web links, they are excellent!

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And Further more it is a Real classic that will never die.Why is that, because thousands of Fans enjoy it so.
And come out to watch and be entertained.

Fact not Fiction!!!

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
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