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    There's a bunch in this tread too: Winter Field Trip to Piccolo picture Thread
    Sorry if you've already seen it.

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    Just a little update, had my first official practice / racing today.

    Unfortunately, there were no other beginners on the track, so I did not ge to race with the pro's, I only had the chance to run 4 time trials by myself..

    anyway, I don't have the result sheet with me (forgot to pick it up) but I do recall my best standing start single lap time was 30.4 seconds. (This track is 333.3 m.)

    This was my 3rd or 4th time on the track and I have NEVER attempted a time trial before.

    The guys @ the track tell me that a pro can run the single lap time trial in 27 seconds or better.

    I hope to improve, and with the really helpful people @ the track, I know I will have lots of support.

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    Not to be a AZZ or anything...but if you went 30.4, I think the Pro's are going to be A LOT faster than 27. The difference you are talking about is only 10%..

    If you have never done one, have no practice with standing starts(or technique for flying laps) have never specifically trained for racing and are within 10% of the pros(on your brand new, bottom of the barrel Mercier with wheels you think you need to upgrade, you have a HUGE future in front of you!!!


    EDIT: Now that I think about it, they are going to be much faster than that. I would imagine they can do a 1:09 Kilo or so on that track..That would AVERAGE for 3+ laps at 23 secs..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappCatt
    Not to be a AZZ or anything...but if you went 30.4, I think the Pro's are going to be A LOT faster than 27. The difference you are talking about is only 10%..
    ..........
    You are right, I think they said the average guy can run 27 on that track.. so yes I am SLOW =)

    Either way, its LOTS of fun and I plan to train the entire year.
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    More Pics PLz! And Btw Nice race ! Cant wait untill next sunday...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarez
    More Pics PLz! And Btw Nice race ! Cant wait untill next sunday...

    Hey ! your first post !

    Finally !!!!
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    Yeah heh... I really hope next race we will have something like 1 standing lap. 200m flying....also you will be able to compare your self to the results that everybody will show!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarez
    Yeah heh... I really hope next race we will have something like 1 standing lap. 200m flying....also you will be able to compare your self to the results that everybody will show!
    awesome !

    I can't wait !!

    anyway, check this out: http://www.floridatrackcycling.com/pages/photos.htm

    TONS of pics of our track and now I realized who some of those people are !!!!!!!!


    check this out: Spiderman ! http://www.floridatrackcycling.com/images/0915.jpg

    and one more of spidey ! : http://www.floridatrackcycling.com/images/182132.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappCatt
    .........

    EDIT: Now that I think about it, they are going to be much faster than that. I would imagine they can do a 1:09 Kilo or so on that track..That would AVERAGE for 3+ laps at 23 secs..

    Here is some info that I thought about..

    My time in standing start 333.3 m = 30.4 seconds
    Average speed = 333.3/30.4 = 10.96 m/s (convert to mph) = 24.5 MPH

    Now, plug the #'s into my cadence calculator & my gearing (48x15) and you get:

    average cadence @ 24.5 mph = 95 rpm.

    This seems quite low, considering that it is averaged #'s... the peek mph had to be a little higher, but not much...

    On my flying start lap, I did in 24.x seconds... *(don't recall the exact # after 24..)

    So, lets get this one down...

    333.3 m in 24 seconds
    Average speed = 333.3/24 = 13.88 m/s = 31 MPH

    Cadence calculator says 31 mph = 121 rpms.


    So now we have what I can maintain @ my current level for 1 full lap... lol

    121 rpm... thats it...


    (one question, what is the exact size of a 700c wheel in inches ?) ... just want to be sure since I'm just using 27 inches for my cadence calculator, I am not sure what the exact # should be...
    Using 27 inch wheels on my FG roadbike conversion I can run @ 28 mph with a little back wind helping me for a good 1/2 a mile or so .. that is 131 rpms (@ the gearing I had on it at the time)...

    but anyway..... I Dgrs....
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    A flying lap at 24 is pretty good. I thought your 30.4 time you were mentioning was the flying lap...

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    I've been using this gearing chart: http://www.i1.net/~dwolfe/gerz/index.html

    it says that 27 inch is basically the same as 700c but i'm still not 100% sure.
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    Does your cadence calculator let you enter in "roll-out" distance? Most cyclecomputers use this value(in mm) to make their calculations.
    If you look in most(any?) cyclocomputer manuals, it will give you an estimate of rollout depending on width of tires....you could also measure rollout by marking your tire and slowly moving the bike forward until it makes a complete revolution and measuring the distance.

    27" wheels are slightly larger than 700c's. That is why many of the road conversion dudes get into trouble with brake reach when they "upgrade" to a 700c wheel(it also drops the BB a little)

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    HI...

    hmmm 39.2 km/h average? well isnt bad.. but isnt fast enough thou... Frodfasterr u have to figure it out that u r a novice... U need more training... more cadence... thats all... but i think u r doing good.. wonder if u r putting some miles on you in the road... and the other important at least for me ... would u post a pic of you while riding in the track?... wanne see your how u ride...

    thanks..

    ps: I envy u for having the track right there... darn!...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraman6970
    HI...

    hmmm 39.2 km/h average? well isnt bad.. but isnt fast enough thou... Frodfasterr u have to figure it out that u r a novice... U need more training... more cadence... thats all... but i think u r doing good.. wonder if u r putting some miles on you in the road... and the other important at least for me ... would u post a pic of you while riding in the track?... wanne see your how u ride...

    thanks..

    ps: I envy u for having the track right there... darn!...

    Awesome, post up when you are gonna be down here !!!
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    I figure I should throw some new pictures in here, just in case some readers of this forum don't look at the pics sticky on the ss/fg forum...

    Alloy Pista 3T bars, 14t No-Brand Cog (Just installed it 5 min ago) ... chain resized to match.

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    sweet

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    So why did you put a 14T cog on there(92.6 gear inches)? That is a higher gear than most guys(who have trained all year) race on?

    Not knocking..just wondering..I plan to do match sprints in either 49x15(88.2GI) or 50x15(90 GI)...I warmup and am doing training with a 49x16.

    You already have a relatively slow cadence for a track rider(95 RPM)...this will drop it even lower(probably down towards 80-85)...

    Are you going to try any of the current racing series? There is info at http://www.floridatrackcycling.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappCatt
    So why did you put a 14T cog on there(92.6 gear inches)? That is a higher gear than most guys(who have trained all year) race on?

    Not knocking..just wondering..I plan to do match sprints in either 49x15(88.2GI) or 50x15(90 GI)...I warmup and am doing training with a 49x16.

    You already have a relatively slow cadence for a track rider(95 RPM)...this will drop it even lower(probably down towards 80-85)...

    Are you going to try any of the current racing series? There is info at http://www.floridatrackcycling.com/

    yes, I plan to race this season. I'm going to go out to the track in a little while, but the weather is nasty, cold and windy ... lol

    Anyway, the 95 rpm is only average from a standing start lap ... my actual rpm was alot higher...

    I don't know if I'm going to be able to spin the 14t, but I'm going to give it a try. If its 2 much, I'll switch back to the 15t ..


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    update: point taken ZappCatt ... the 14t was overkill for me.

    I am going to try the 15t next week and see how it feels...
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    No prob, it was not a slam at all..just was wondering.

    I am also a newb..but am lucky that we have a core bunch of good guys who ride at our track(the double edged sword of Hellyer...lots of good guys..VERY limited opportunities to ride...so if it is open, there will be some knowledgeable dudes...but is only open for a couple of hours a week right now...)

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    Fordfasterr were you at the track on Sunday moring? It seems I recall a bike like yours, but I can't place you. I was on a red Guru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H. Star
    Fordfasterr were you at the track on Sunday moring? It seems I recall a bike like yours, but I can't place you. I was on a red Guru.
    Yes I was there. I remember you.

    I could not stay with the group because my gearing was too high, I gave up early and went home in the freezing weather. Also, I am new, so I don't have the endurance or strength to keep up with the experienced riders.

    =)

    I'm changing the gear to a 15t for this sunday and hopefully it'll be more manageable.

    See you there !
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    u were using 48x14??? thats too much dude... cya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraman6970
    u were using 48x14??? thats too much dude... cya!
    duh, I felt like i was climbing up a hill the entire time I was on the track, it was hard to keep a pace line... + it was in the low 40's that morning + wind chill ... I was a wreck !

    =)

    Ohh, and I forgot to mention it, but as I rode toward the bench to answer my cell phone, I didn't un-clip quick enough and ended up on my arse ! LOL
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