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    yea the spider cracked against the arm. Typical for an old crank. Its older than I am. I suspect it was stress hairlined before since I ride that bike all summer in the city and hills.

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    48x15 is ~86, and once you get a little time on the track you should be able to get that up to wicked high speeds without feeling spun out. It's just keeping it fast that gets hard. I usually do our interval sessions in an 86 and then go up to a 92 for the "motor game" (a motorpaced points race where you get points for taking laps against the motor).

    You should get used to the squish, too, and anticipate it enough that you'll stop noticing.

    That track is really cool though. I wish there were more around like it-- it's like a super carnival ride.

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    Great fun!! Sounds like the track at Calshot on the South coast of the UK - that's 143m and 45 degree banking: http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/fea..._calshot.shtml

    I'm with you re the compression when flying round the banking . For comparison, we do flying laps there on an 81-84 inch gear (I use an 82, the track max is 84) and my fastest is 9.92s; the all time track record is something like 9.30s which is insane... Haven't worked out that cadence yet but it's fast!

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    Tracks that have a gear limit...That is just for the amateurs, right? Do they let specific cat's(such as 1/2,Pro) ride higher gears?

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    They don't distinguish between different Cats when giving a track limit. Although they talk of a limit, in practice I've never seen any official actually checking a rider's gearing. I tend to look on the limit as a recommendation rather than a strict rule.

    Tracks are usually designed with a specific gear range / speed in mind, and this is where the Calshot limit came from. In practice, these things tend to be self-enforcing anyhow - if a rider turned up to race with a 90 inch gear at Calshot, they'd be spotted pretty quickly while in the bunch, and if they looked any good, would be opening themselves up to being attacked repeatedly until they're tired. It takes much more energy responding to repeated short attacks if you're overgeared.

    This is kind of assuming bunch races / sprints - being a steady solo effort pursuiting is a different kettle of fish...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeRacer
    I did my first race on a drome this weekend. At Forest City Velodrom in London, ONT. It was a flying lap event. Spite the fact I was completly spun out and wanted a bigger gear than what I had (48/15), riding the black line in the 50 degree banking at whatever speed I was at sure compresses ya and leaves ya with a sore neck!

    I LOVE IT!

    (it also left me with a cracked sugino crank!)
    DO u realize why u cant use big gears there then??? 48x15 its kind'a the limit there un london.Ont.

    UM

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickster
    Great fun!! Sounds like the track at Calshot on the South coast of the UK - that's 143m and 45 degree banking: http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/fea..._calshot.shtml

    I'm with you re the compression when flying round the banking . For comparison, we do flying laps there on an 81-84 inch gear (I use an 82, the track max is 84) and my fastest is 9.92s; the all time track record is something like 9.30s which is insane... Haven't worked out that cadence yet but it's fast!

    mickster
    Yes sir just like that one but 50 degress banking hehehe

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    Bitingduck: Im not new to track, i just never had the money to race it

    Ultraman:
    From what I was told the limit is 81" in London. But for events that are solo you can run whatever. Personly I think anything over an 86" would be stupid there unless your legs are the size of Jamie Staff's.

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    And Jamie has some enormous legs.

    Track racing is cheaper than road racing. At least that's what I tell myself...

    The track time sure adds up though, but I think FCV has an annual thing that saves a bunch of money. Around here it's all by the session (though there are bulk discounts and stuff).

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    The annual membership at FCV is a really sweet deal. Trouble is at the end of a seaon of living life on the road racing National Level Downhill Im pretty much broke, add to that gas price argg.... But its so worth it!

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