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    Cleats for Look Shoes, but for Clips?

    Hi -

    I tried doing a search for this but to no avail, so here goes...

    I remember seeing this a while back - a cleat that attaches to a Look-Compatible shoes but meant for clips and straps. I have a decent pair of road shoes I'd like to use (Sidi), and this would help me out greatly.

    I am planning on using them with Superbe Pro Track pedals which I have, and hopefully soon they'll be on a track frame...

    From what I remember, this cleat only used the lower two holes of the three bolt pattern.

    Anyone have a picture of this, as well as any info where I can get these? Also, anyone have any other suggestions? Has enyone tried using the older Shimano three bolt cleat and modifying it?

    Many thanks, I've learned a lot from these forums...

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    I don't think they are made anymore, but the only ones I know of are the Shimano PD-64 cleats. They were used with the Dura Ace 7400 pedals. Here's a photo I've been saving all these years just in case someone asks.
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    http://www.yellowjersey.org/tocleat.html

    there you go. Kind of expensive but they look nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamtastic
    http://www.yellowjersey.org/tocleat.html

    there you go. Kind of expensive but they look nice.
    I tried some of those made by YJ last year but I broke one cleat after just a few hard sprints. The Shimano ones have lasted longer for me.

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    Well every pair of Shimano road shoes that I've purchased have come with a pair of old fashioned cleats for a two bolt pattern. Its the same bolt patern isn't it so they should fit. Find someone who uses Shimano shoes and they should have some lying around.

    EDIT: Its for 2 of the 3 standard road bolt pattern. Its not for SPD mtn.

    Regards, Anthony
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    Hmmmm, interesting so far -

    That blue cleat sounds kind of expensive - there must be another alternative at a more reasonable price....

    Thanks so far, please keep those suggestions coming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moochers_Dad
    I don't think they are made anymore, but the only ones I know of are the Shimano PD-64 cleats. They were used with the Dura Ace 7400 pedals. Here's a photo I've been saving all these years just in case someone asks.

    Maybe if I can find this cleat - if I dremel off the front part and just use the lower two bolts, hopefully it'll work in a keirin pedal? A glance at the underside of this cleat shows me where I can take off material and not compromise strength...

    Thanks again, any more thoughts???

    Dave

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    good link... thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamtastic
    http://www.yellowjersey.org/tocleat.html

    there you go. Kind of expensive but they look nice.

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    Those cleats illustrated above are, I believe, Yoshidas. You can get them in several colors through your local shop via Euro-Asia Imports:

    http://www.euroasiaimports.com/produ...idCategory=785

    I got a couple pairs to use on a fixie (so I wouldn't eat up PD-64 cleats) and they weren't all that expensive. The black plastic ones are more durable than the colored ones (the colored ones were rather brittle) although I didn't have breakage with either of them.

    On PD-64's, the prices are a bit outlandish, although I've noticed that Renaissance Cycles (www.renaissance-cycles.com) has been advertising them for about $35 on eBay. Do be aware that the back lip of the slot tends to bend inward if you walk on them much. They will stay in place with only two bolts; in fact, one of the classic problems with them was that the front tabs would break off where they lock into the pedals.
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    So these Yoshidas will work for a Look pattern shoe?

    Is this company also an online store? Any possibility of me ordering from them from Canada?

    Thanks

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    f1junkie, I don't know if EAI distributes to Canada. If not, check with Bike Central in Portland, OR, Yellow Jersey Coop in Madison, WI, or with Bill Ron Cycles in Redondo Beach, CA, and any of them can order them for you and send them to you. You can't buy from them directly.

    Ultraman, those are the PD-64 cleats (made for the PD-7400 pedals). I've seen those called Ultegra cleats as well, presumably because of the -64 designation (6 series have designated Ultegra in recent years, while 7 series have designated Dura Ace), but there's no difference in the cleat itself. They come in both a brown and a light blue packaging, but without an Ultegra or Dura Ace designation in either case.

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    Hi!! all
    This is Japanese professional Keirin rider

    All Japanese professional Keirin rider use clip system and we use commercial production racing shoes
    But,It's shoes made for clipless system for look,Shimano SPD-R

    We must use cleats for look system bolts hole
    Some Japanese company mede cleats for look system bolts hole

    I inform some Keirin cleats for you

    The white one use for system bolts hole of Look,Shimano SPD,made by "KENDO cycle"
    The black one use for system bolts hole of Look,made by "PEARL IZUMI"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomity
    Hi!! all
    This is Japanese professional Keirin rider

    All Japanese professional Keirin rider use clip system and we use commercial production racing shoes
    But,It's shoes made for clipless system for look,Shimano SPD-R

    We must use cleats for look system bolts hole
    Some Japanese company mede cleats for look system bolts hole

    I inform some Keirin cleats for you

    The white one use for system bolts hole of Look,Shimano SPD,made by "KENDO cycle"
    The black one use for system bolts hole of Look,made by "PEARL IZUMI"

    Now THIS is exactly what I am looking for!

    Does anyone know where I can purchase these?

    Thanks so much for your help

    And let me know (anyone) where I can get a couple of sets!

    Cheers

    Dave

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    Also interested over here...


    I think I have an interweb crush on Tomity. F'n brilliant.
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    If all your looking for is a cleat to hold your foot from sliding out backwards from your pedal make your own.....Ive made a few for guys who lost cleats over the years or broke them. Also the old school plastic Sidi and Specialized cleats match up nicly to the SPD-R 2 bolt pattern shimano stoped making pedals for.

    Go check into it.

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    Tomity you have a PM

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by f1junkie
    Tomity you have a PM

    Dave
    Did you find a solution???

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    Hi Thanks for Asking!

    Well, I think if money is no object, I can always order them overseas. But I'd like to see if anyone has them in North America first - maybe I could buy any extra sets people have?

    Please let me know here if there are any sets you can sell me!

    Thanks again.

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    Tomity -

    You have another PM

    I will send e-mail afterwards.

    Thanks

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    Dave, not sure how helpful this will be but came across this:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...ial_s%26sa%3DG

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    Quote Originally Posted by shishi
    Dave, not sure how helpful this will be but came across this:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...ial_s%26sa%3DG


    Thanks very much -

    I've contacted Tomity about sending me some from Japan, so I will see how it goes.

    Thanks for thinking of me!

    Dave

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    Thanks shishi -

    I have contacted them, just waiting for their reply!

    Many thanks again, you guys on the forum are great!

    Dave

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    Carnac cleats

    I finally got the Carnac cleats from World class. Yes they are plastic and pretty cheap. I have to say though, that I am happy with them so far. Using them with MKS sylvans and zip up road shoes.

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