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Old 04-16-12, 12:37 AM   #676
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Tiemeyer been retired carleton??
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Tiemeyer been retired carleton??
Worked hard on flexibility and changed my riding position which called for a slightly longer top tube.

Believe it or not, the Tiemeyer is slightly stiffer than the Dolan during rigorous standing starts. They both handle identically as the head tube angle and fork rake are identical.

So, I won't go as far as saying that the Tiemeyer is retired. Just not being used right now
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Here's mine. Must be the little sister to yours, Carleton.
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Old 04-17-12, 11:27 PM   #684
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Here's mine. Must be the little sister to yours, Carleton.
But, I think yours is faster than mine!
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I wouldn't bet on it, man! Have you seen my times recently? Yeesh...
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I don't really like the dropouts on the DF3. I pulled my wheel this weekend on my first standing start. Wheel locked up against the chainstay and I almost fell over as I was strapped into the pedals. I found out that I *can* yank my feet out of the straps, haha. Granted, I wasn't using the chain tensioner.

Fast forward to tonight...

Tonight was Chariot and Keirin racing at DLV, so lots of standing starts. I *did* use the chain tensioner and, again, pulled a wheel on the first standing start...even with the tensioner engaged. The wheel didn't move enough to lock up thankfully. But, the chain was super slack all of a sudden.

So, I wrench down really hard on the wheel nuts and race the night. But, something wasn't right. I felt some dragging. In wrenching hard on the nuts on the Dura Ace hub, I also tightened the cone nuts and they seized the bearings a little. I didn't realize this till I got home and inspected everything.

So, I spent the evening moving everything back to the Tiemeyer. I'll use that until I get the dropouts replaced with titanium ones or I get a good chain tensioner that will work for the length of the dropout.

To be honest, the only advantage the DF3 has over the Tiemeyer is that it is maybe 1lb lighter and it absorbs bumps better. But, heck, I don't even know how well it does that! I broke a saddle tonight, too!

The Tiemeyer is stiffer under the load of standing starts.

So...I'm back to the Tiemeyer after less than 2 weeks on the DF3:



I've never had a problem with Tiemeyer's titanium dropouts. Never needed a tensioner with them.
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Definitely surprising for you to be having those issues with the wheel pulling given this is the sprinters model in the line up. Hopefully you can resolve it and get back out on the Dolan. One of the NJS chain tensioners might fit the bill? http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...&cPath=188_192
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Definitely surprising for you to be having those issues with the wheel pulling given this is the sprinters model in the line up. Hopefully you can resolve it and get back out on the Dolan. One of the NJS chain tensioners might fit the bill? http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...&cPath=188_192
I thought the same thing! I don't know why the built-in tensioner didn't hold very well.

I do have one of those MKS tensioners in my small parts box and I found out last night when I returned from racing that it does fit the DF3's dropouts. The only bummer is that the working range of the tensioner is about 1/2 of the range of the DF3's dropouts. So, that's certainly an option, but it's not ideal. I think I may be able to find a BMX tensioner with a longer range.
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Old 04-29-12, 04:32 PM   #689
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1920`s Drysdale , 1985 schwinn madison,1973 Atala, 1974 Fuji, 1980 Viner , 1970`s Zeus , 1947 CCM ,1961 Frejus

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Totally late on this, but this thing looks fast sitting still. Have you gone back to your Tiemeyer?
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since i actually went to the beginner track class, i can put this here now:
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Totally late on this, but this thing looks fast sitting still. Have you gone back to your Tiemeyer?
Actually, yeah. Raced the Tiemeyer last night.

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Update:

So, I'm back on the Tiemeyer for good. They both have their pros and cons. The Dolan is nice...but the Tiemeyer is slightly better for me. I've achieved some near PBs when I went back to the Tiemeyer. Like 0.03" off of my PB. The PBs were set when I was peaking, so to be close to those when my training load is high makes me happy.

Anybody need a Dolan DF3 size 59? It fits like a 58, really.


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Hey Carleton, How much you asking for the DF3 frameset?
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I'm just seeing this. So you had a DF3, but decided you don't like it. I have been off this forum for a while. Interesting. I've never had a problem with the dropouts on mine. Seatpost: different story.
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I'm just seeing this. So you had a DF3, but decided you don't like it. I have been off this forum for a while. Interesting. I've never had a problem with the dropouts on mine. Seatpost: different story.
I have an older model than you. The dropouts are different.

My dropouts look like this:



I believe that yours are solid, have texture, and are not replaceable (no screws). Your dropouts are better.

Plus, I make quite a lot of torque (body weight + squats, haha). Most people wouldn't have an issue with pulling the wheel.

Otherwise, the frame is great. But, my Tiemeyer is actually stiffer on standing starts.
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