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Old 12-13-07, 09:34 AM   #1
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Can I ride my Kona Paddy Wagon at the Burnaby Velodrome?

I'm going to be in Vancouver for 4 months this summer and thought I would give track a try since the Burnaby Velodrome is in town. According to my reading, it's a 200 m track and is pretty steep compared to other tracks, and they say track bikes only. My current bike is a Kona Paddy Wagon, which isn't a true track bike - more of a road geo with a higher BB. I'm wondering if they'll let me on the track with that thing or if I'm better off renting. Also, what is a good number of gear inches to start out with?

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Yes, you can use the Paddy Wagon. Just try going to slowly right near the bottom of the bank first to check if your pedal strikes the banking - highly unlikely, but I've seen it happen once (170mm cranks, quill pedals didn't help).

Re gearing - how old are you?

If you're over 15 and under 18 try going for a gearing in the mid-80s (83 to 87 inches). If you're over 18, a good gearing is 47 x 14. Always work from a low gear - don't bolt on a massive chainring for your first ride. I've seen a former world champ ride 250 meters in 14 seconds on a gearing of 84 inches. And many six-day riders stick to gearings under 90 inches. Stay low and it'll teach you to pedal, improve leg speed, improve suppleness and lets your respond to changes in pace quickly.
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Yes, you can use the Paddy Wagon. Just try going to slowly right near the bottom of the bank first to check if your pedal strikes the banking - highly unlikely, but I've seen it happen once (170mm cranks, quill pedals didn't help).

Re gearing - how old are you?

If you're over 15 and under 18 try going for a gearing in the mid-80s (83 to 87 inches). If you're over 18, a good gearing is 47 x 14. Always work from a low gear - don't bolt on a massive chainring for your first ride. I've seen a former world champ ride 250 meters in 14 seconds on a gearing of 84 inches. And many six-day riders stick to gearings under 90 inches. Stay low and it'll teach you to pedal, improve leg speed, improve suppleness and lets your respond to changes in pace quickly.
Thanks for the quick reply...

I'm over 18...

And I'm definitely running 170 mm cranks with quill pedals at the moment. I would probably throw some clipless on there...
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why don't you ask them?

Has old sprinter ever ridden on a steep track before? I clip pedals with 165mm cranks and a cm higher bb on a track that is substantially shallower then burnaby.

47x14 is really high if you're just starting out. If you're not a cat3+ on the road stick to the low 80's for a while.
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why don't you ask them?

Has old sprinter ever ridden on a steep track before? I clip pedals with 165mm cranks and a cm higher bb on a track that is substantially shallower then burnaby.

47x14 is really high if you're just starting out. If you're not a cat3+ on the road stick to the low 80's for a while.
I took your advice and emailed them. They got back to me really quickly and said the bike is fine.
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Has old sprinter ever ridden on a steep track before?
Yes - Manchester, Launceston, Adelaide, Whyalla. (plus a host of not so steep tracks - Mount Gambier, Herne Hill, Shepparton, etc).

I'm speaking from experience - only seen one rider clip a pedal. 170mm cranks, quill pedals.
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I ride Burnaby 3 days a week.

I would ditch the quill pedals for somthing more lower profile on the sides but other than that I would'nt worry at all. Theres a few racers zipping around on Cervelo's and Cramarotti's that were built for pursuit and have a lower BB than say a Look or Dolan. 170 arms should be fine also.

Bottom line is if your that new to track you wont be going that slow on it to risk clipping.
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