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orangepaint 12-27-07 10:14 PM

Keirin bikes?
 
I'm looking for a track bike setup with a $400-$700 frameset and I was considering picking up a keirin bike. This bike would be ridden on the track and the only street use it would see is the ride to the velodrome. I'm looking for something that is primarily going to be raced. Would a keirin bike be a practical option or should I look for something else in this price range?

Dubbayoo 12-28-07 12:51 AM

Assuming you mean NJS keirin, there is nothing wrong with that. Just be aware of a few things. The 'keirin' bike doesn't really get you anything outside of Japan except style points maybe. Keirin frames have narrower dropouts which will make wheel choices limited. Since the bike is steel I suppose you could have the dropouts reset but why bother? I'd just look for a used Fuji Track Pro or a Bianchi Pista Concept. It'll be durable for sure.

Yoshi 12-28-07 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dubbayoo (Post 5879762)
Assuming you mean NJS keirin, there is nothing wrong with that. Just be aware of a few things. The 'keirin' bike doesn't really get you anything outside of Japan except style points maybe. Keirin frames have narrower dropouts which will make wheel choices limited. Since the bike is steel I suppose you could have the dropouts reset but why bother? I'd just look for a used Fuji Track Pro or a Bianchi Pista Concept. It'll be durable for sure.

Most Keirin frames are now spaced at either 120mm or 123mm (an extra 3mm for chain tensioners). Only older frames are spaced at 110mm.

Everything else is pretty spot on.

Serendipper 12-28-07 11:49 AM

Search for "Keirin" in this forum and enjoy.


No, seriously. Some damn good keirin threads if you search.

oldsprinter 12-30-07 06:39 AM

Keirin frames are old technology these days. Visit your velodrome and see what others are riding - it aint steel.

Noestaencasa 12-30-07 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by oldsprinter (Post 5890860)
Keirin frames are old technology these days. Visit your velodrome and see what others are riding - it aint steel.

Not always true.
Steel comes in various shapes (aero) and is still preferred by some trackies. Those riding lugged steel keirin bikes are really only doing it for style points, which imho, doesnt help them win races...so why bother?

DW

Dubbayoo 12-30-07 11:33 AM

The advantage of steel is you can crash it more before tossing it vs alloy.

orangepaint 12-30-07 01:00 PM

Would something like an off the peg BJ Vigorelli or used Italian steel for the right price be a more prudent choice or should I just go for alloy?

Dubbayoo 12-30-07 04:41 PM

My first track bike was a $200 used steel Gitane...just get on something.

ed073 12-30-07 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubbayoo (Post 5893415)
My first track bike was a $200 used steel Gitane...just get on something.

+ 1000.

Mike T. 12-30-07 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubbayoo (Post 5891934)
The advantage of steel is you can crash it more before tossing it vs alloy.

The last time I looked, steel was an alloy.

taras0000 12-30-07 07:06 PM

well, then we need to get an iron bike for all the purists i suppose

Dubbayoo 12-31-07 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike T. (Post 5893765)
The last time I looked, steel was an alloy.

last time I looked most reasonable people would've assumed I meant aluminum alloy. Enjoy that bushel of nits you've no doubt picked this weekend.

zzzwillzzz 12-31-07 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dubbayoo (Post 5895913)
Enjoy that bushel of nits you've no doubt picked this weekend.

oh come on, it wouldn't be BF without it:D

Dubbayoo 12-31-07 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by zzzwillzzz (Post 5896043)
oh come on, it wouldn't be BF without it:D

It does make a fine pie. ;)

oldsprinter 01-01-08 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dubbayoo (Post 5893415)
My first track bike was a $200 used steel Gitane...just get on something.

Mine was a $60 Malvern Star - in winter I put a freewheel and brakes on and it became my road bike. Cheap way to start racing.

orangepaint 01-02-08 02:23 AM

Any suggestions for finding a 52cm track frame on the cheap?

bonechilling 01-02-08 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by orangepaint (Post 5907525)
Any suggestions for finding a 52cm track frame on the cheap?

Yes.

Also, in a few weeks, their sister site is going to be selling stand-alone Kilo TT frames for $175 shipped. That's definitely the best deal around on a legit track frame.


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