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Old 12-11-08, 10:23 AM   #1
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New Guerciotti Record Track Frame

does anyone have any info on this new "retro" frame?

looks interesting, but i'm wondering if it's made for fixed gear stylists or velodrome racers.

http://camarillobikeco.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=2030


http://gretnabikes.com/item.asp?PID=104&cID=0


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Old 12-11-08, 10:41 AM   #2
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Ah, I remember once, I showed up to the track with a bike that had a drilled fork. I was laughed at so hard...then I got banned from the track for a month and was not never to show my face until I got that 'semi-tarck ***** outta hurr'.

But seriously folks...

Guerciotti generally does not "pander". They're not big enough to.

Without seeing the geometry numbers, the angles look slightly slack to me. The threaded fork as well is probably a nod to tradition. (read: guys who are killing each other for vintage Italian track iron.)

Seeing as Guerciotti already makes the Scratch, I think perhaps this is intended to be more of an off-season trainer than an on-track racebike. Though that's not to say it's not perfectly adequate as a race bike.

I'll say "winter trainer" because the idea of Guerciotti making a bike specifically for the Williamsburg market makes my heart ache.
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Old 12-15-08, 07:15 AM   #3
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As trelhak points out, there's precedent here - a long tradition of 'drome-capable trainers with drilled forks. Bikes like the Pinarello Amatore came with a drilled fork so they could be ridden with a brake for training. Generally, they were built with the same grade of Columbus tubing as the pure racing version - the Bassano - but were built up with lesser components, i.e. Gipiemme rather than Campagnolo. The Bassano fork was delivered undrilled.

All of which was happening 25 years ago, long before the current madness for fixed-gear PBR bar spinzzzz.
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Old 12-16-08, 03:05 PM   #4
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That tradition, in fact continues into this day, though it is becoming rarer, with professionals training with the team year-round, instead of being left to their own devices in the off-season.

One of my friends recently came into possession of such an off-season fixed-gear frame. It's a De Rosa, with obvious road geometry and brake drillings, but track ends and 120mm rear spacing. It is painted in the purplish blue and turquoise of the old Batik team De Rosa used to sponsor in the late '90s. It was obviously never meant to see a velodrome, but it is a highly impressive piece nontheless. (It's all fillet-brazed as well, which I understand is incredibly rare for De Rosa who, by 1997 had already moved to TIG welding for their steel joining.)
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