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Old 08-29-09, 01:39 AM   #1
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Track racing is easy.

It's easy. Discuss.
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Old 08-29-09, 07:11 AM   #2
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Racing is easy. Racing well is not.
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Old 08-29-09, 09:32 AM   #3
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Racing is supposed to be easy. All you have to do is train hard enough.
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Road is easier.
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Road is easier.

That goes without saying!
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Not true.
what you cant ride from point a to point b?
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70 mile RR > 25 lap points race. Fact.
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Then why are 99% of roadies that live near a track AFRAID to try it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Let me guess, you were able to get on a track and made a few laps and passed some people that were not putting in much effort? That isn't exactly racing.
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70 mile RR > 25 lap points race. Fact.

70 mile road race -- 70 miles of milling about with boring roadies dicking with gears, brakes, piss breaks, clif bars and complaining that the you wanted cytomax, not gatorade in your bottle.

Points race -- non-stop action, and putting fear into the roadies watching from the stands and holding hads with each other.
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Old 08-29-09, 07:37 PM   #12
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Let me guess, you were able to get on a track and made a few laps and passed some people that were not putting in much effort? That isn't exactly racing.
Close. I was batting .500 for wins in my first two nights at the track. I got upgraded to the 3's and won there too.

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70 mile road race -- 70 miles of milling about with boring roadies dicking with gears, brakes, piss breaks, clif bars and complaining that the you wanted cytomax, not gatorade in your bottle.
Not true. Try rolling break in a race like that. Milling about and being pack fill isn't racing.

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Points race -- non-stop action, and putting fear into the roadies watching from the stands and holding hads with each other.
True, aside from striking fear in to roadie's hearts.
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You were lucky then.2's and 1's will likely be tougher.
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You were lucky then.2's and 1's will likely be tougher.
I was drunk when I started this thread but decided to see how it went. And I actually don't think it was easy, but my roadie strength and experience helped get me through the 4/5's. 3's are much more my level.
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[QUOTE=Frunkin;9581075]I was drunk when I started this thread/QUOTE]


This tells me that it is best to just ignore you.
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I was drunk when I started this thread but decided to see how it went. And I actually don't think it was easy
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I was drunk when I started this thread but decided to see how it went. And I actually don't think it was easy, but my roadie strength and experience helped get me through the 4/5's. 3's are much more my level.
Well, what cat are you on the road?

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70 mile RR > 25 lap points race. Fact.
I'd take the points race actually. But I prefer my racing an hour or less.

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Not true.
Well, in my experience it's a lot easier to sit in the group in road racing/crits and be pushing air a lot less. At the track you're never far from the front and here, without fail, the racing goes to "race pace" pretty much from the gun after neutral lap. I haven't done any real road races since the spring though, just crits/hill circuits/car track circuits.
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I think track racing is way easier than road racing. I'm not the fastest dude but I can win track races pretty easily with some strategy, while I never do anything but finish like 35th in road races, since no matter how hard I work, there's anyway some hammerhead who will crush me in the last half mile.
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I think track racing is way easier than road racing. I'm not the fastest dude but I can win track races pretty easily with some strategy, while I never do anything but finish like 35th in road races, since no matter how hard I work, there's anyway some hammerhead who will crush me in the last half mile.
This.

And I'm a 3 on the road. But I've never gotten a win on the road.
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I think track racing is way easier than road racing. I'm not the fastest dude but I can win track races pretty easily with some strategy, while I never do anything but finish like 35th in road races, since no matter how hard I work, there's anyway some hammerhead who will crush me in the last half mile.

How many match sprints have you won? What were your flying 200m and race 200m times? What's your time in the Kilo, or the individual pursuit? Team pursuit?

See that's the thing about track -- it's pretty easy to separate who is fast and who is not objectively.
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See that's the thing about track -- it's pretty easy to separate who is fast and who is not objectively.
same with road TTs.

Mass start and TT are entirely different types of races. I know strong TTers who can't mass start, and strong mass starters who can't TT, and sprinters who can't race more than 3 laps (mabe 8 if they have a motorbike to pace them...)
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And I'm a 3 on the road. But I've never gotten a win on the road.
Well sounds like you should have been crushing 4's and 5's anyway then.
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same with road TTs.

Mass start and TT are entirely different types of races. I know strong TTers who can't mass start, and strong mass starters who can't TT, and sprinters who can't race more than 3 laps (mabe 8 if they have a motorbike to pace them...)
Yes that's true. But the Sprint, Kilo and pursuit are standardized distances. They tell a lot about speed. To win match spints at a high level tells a lot about bike skills and speed. Keiring tells a lot about all of it.

They're all different skill sets. As a sprinter I took great joy in winning sprints, but winnng madisons and keirins made me really proud because they were stretching my abilities.
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They're all different skill sets. As a sprinter I took great joy in winning sprints, but winnng madisons and keirins made me really proud because they were stretching my abilities.
I'm mostly a points/scratch/madison racer. Beating a bunch of sprinters who have a second or more on me over 200 meters in a 6 lap race always entertains me. Speed isn't everything.
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...sprinters who can't race more than 3 laps (mabe 8 if they have a motorbike to pace them...)
Me. Minus a lap.

+1 on being proud of winning one Keirin so far (heat + final, for the B racers), because in the prior Keirin I couldn't even stay with the group behind the moto. Oddly enough I got annihilated in the Match Sprint against the same guys, and I thought I'd be better in that event.

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