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tdot-miele 08-30-09 11:00 PM

Giant VS Argon opinions?
 
Looking for some input on the Giant omnium vs the Argon18 Track frame... I'm lookin to build up one of these two and there both around a similar price.

iluvfreebeer 08-31-09 09:14 AM

FWIW, I rode an Argon 18 Electron for a few races in Taiwan last year. Nice bike. Reminded me a lot of the Fuji Track Comp (2009). It also depends upon what type and level rider you are. I haven't ridden and Omnium but I've seem them. Seem pretty beefy which I like.

CoreyD 08-31-09 05:52 PM

If you're looking at the 2010 Omnium, I say that's the way to go.

MGtrack 08-31-09 06:08 PM

Will the 2010 Omnium be available in the US? Haven't seen anyone carrying it.

andre nickatina 08-31-09 06:37 PM

Never ridden one but the workmanship/welds on Argon18's are a treat.

At $750, Planet X's carbon track frames are a total steal. That could be another one to consider.

CoreyD 08-31-09 07:17 PM

2010 Omnium's should be available in Nov I think.

tdot-miele 08-31-09 07:49 PM

ya andre i just found out about the planet x's the other day!? How is there pricing so low on a full carbon (frame, fork, post) setup? I mean you look at say the cervelo or pinarello carbons and their pricing seems insane in comparison.

If they could put the mavic elipses off the omnium on the argon with it's FSA drivetrain i'd be sold hahaha

carleton 08-31-09 08:28 PM

I have a Planet X and it's really nice. I have guys at my local track that have $3,000 Teschners telling me that the Planet X is a helluva deal. Right now I think the Planet X is $850 shipped.

The only gripe I have is that you have to run a small tire up front due to very tight fork clearance. I run 21mm on the front 23mm on the back.

I was at Masters Track Nationals 2 weeks ago. That event is like a bike show being that the racers are all older and can afford crazy expensive bikes (think Corima, BT, Felt TK1, LOOK 496...). There were maybe 6 Planet Xs there. A good number being that the bike is less than a year on the market (I think).

TejanoTrackie 08-31-09 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by carleton (Post 9591845)
I was at Masters Track Nationals 2 weeks ago. That event is like a bike show being that the racers are all older and can afford crazy expensive bikes (think Corima, BT, Felt TK1, LOOK 496...).

I was there too, and we're not all filthy rich yuppies. I ride a Bianchi Pista Concept and so did two of my fellow competitors. The majority of bikes in my age group (60-64) were moderately priced aluminum models like Felts, Fujis etc. Of course, I didn't win anything, so maybe my equipment was the problem, huh? :rolleyes:

carleton 08-31-09 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 9591907)
I was there too, and we're not all filthy rich yuppies. I ride a Bianchi Pista Concept and so did two of my fellow competitors. The majority of bikes in my age group (60-64) were moderately priced aluminum models like Felts, Fujis etc. Of course, I didn't win anything, so maybe my equipment was the problem, huh? :rolleyes:

Haha!

As we all know, it's 95% engine and 5% bike. Heck, in the men's 30-34 points race the winner lapped the field twice on an aluminum bike with box rims and spokes.

Maybe I should rephrase my point to say that most at Masters Nationals are able to race just about whatever they want and several chose Planet X.

Personally, I can't see a Teschner Track Pro being $2,200 BETTER. It may be better, but not 3.5 times better.

When I got my Planet X I was actually in the market for a Pista Concept, but they are hard to find these days.

air canada 09-09-09 05:08 PM

Back to the op's question. I ride the Argon 18 with mavic ellipse wheels. They are very popular here in Canada. Quite a few of them at the BVC. They are tight, stiff, but very compliant. I can't speak about the Giant, but that was my second choice at the time. I've also owned the fuji tp and ridden the trek t1. I'm very happy with my Argon. E mail them in Montreal with your questions.

spinerguy 09-10-09 11:58 PM

Another vote for the Electron, quite rare in Southern cal btw. Previous bike was a Fuji Track Pro, although these are comparable Argon seems to be built better. Resonance in FTP's fat tubes were quite loud at top speeds which was a bit annoying.


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