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    BikesDirect Track Bikes on the Track

    I've weighed out a lot of options with the BikesDirect.com track bicycles. I know "you get what you pay for" and most of these bikes are super cheap.

    I'm on a really tight budget but I want to get a track bike of my own for the upcoming season. Should I go with:

    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...cane/track.htm

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    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/thehour.htm

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    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/mercier/kilott.htm

    I feel like the Kilo TT is more money for not much of a better bike but I'd love to hear others opinions.
    I'm aware that none of these bikes are very quality but it'll only be until i get better on the track and decide i want to dedicate more time to the discipline of track cycling.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmt View Post
    I feel like the Kilo TT is more money for not much of a better bike but I'd love to hear others opinions.
    I think you are being penny wise and pound foolish (literally). The Kilo TT frame is significantly better than the others, and the frame is the one component you can't change out. The other components are OK to get you started and are easily changed.

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    if i were to go on the track with a BD bike then I'd get this http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...team_track.htm

    maybe it's worth to save up
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    Hadn't really thought too much about the TT frame, may end up going with that.
    The team track is the best option, just not sure if i'll be able to afford it. Kind of a bummer that they drill the fork on it though.

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    I honestly can't see it being worth anyone's money to drop a few hundred on an entry level steel track bike, when for a little bit more you can get the Team Track, which is the same level of frame and component (sans wheels) which is used at the international competitive level with great success.

    The said, the Kilo TT is leaps and bounds better than those other junkers, if only for the fact that it doesn't look like a rolling turd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonechilling View Post
    I honestly can't see it being worth anyone's money to drop a few hundred on an entry level steel track bike, when for a little bit more you can get the Team Track, which is the same level of frame and component (sans wheels) which is used at the international competitive level with great success.
    What may seem like "a little bit more" to you, can be a lot to someone like the OP who said that he's "on a really tight budget." Fact is, the Moto Team Track is more than twice as much as the Kilo TT, or $446 more to be precise. Heck, I just spent more than that on a new set of track wheels for this season, but I'm not just beginning track racing and I'm certainly not on a tight budget. Also, don't forget that the OP is going to have other expenses for various cogs, chainrings, right bar and stem, tools, maybe pedals and shoes etc. I'd rather see someone just get on the track and start racing, and then see if they really want to stick with it before they invest a lot in equipment. Fact is, at the entry level it just is not going to matter; I see these newbies coming out on whatever cool big buck hardware, only to get their butts kicked by riders on track rental bikes. After a few races they are gone, and the rental bike riders show up the next season on some good quality track specific hardware like the Team Track.

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    I appreciate the responses. I will take all this into consideration before I make my final decision, thanks for the advice!

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    I have The Hour and raced it last year at the local track. It's no where near as fancy as the other bikes out on the track. I'm sure there are people making jokes and laughing at it. I'm okay with that because it's what I could afford.

    I could have saved up for something better, but this is a stop-gap measure for me. The rental bikes aren't quite my size and you aren't supposed to change the gearing.

    Also consider your dedication to the track. Will you be one of those guys out there regularly racing several times a week and training the other days, or does your schedule only allow once a week at best? I can't get out there every week so it doesn't make sense to drop $600-$1000 on a bike that might only get ridden a handful of times a year.

    I enjoy racing and hope to be able to race regularly and then I will get the nicer bike, but until then I say ride what you can afford and just enjoy your time on the track.
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    I agree with Tejano Trackie. I started on a POS KHS I bought for $400. I won a couple of races on it even though it rode like a wild untamed bronko! Gave me the incentive to save for my 3 Rensho though. Buy something like the Kilo and have fun; you can figure out if you like the sport then buy the bike that fits your needs. For example, if it turns out you are more of a sprinter, don't buy something more suitable for pursuit, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
    I think you are being penny wise and pound foolish (literally). The Kilo TT frame is significantly better than the others, and the frame is the one component you can't change out. The other components are OK to get you started and are easily changed.
    Just incase people don't realize it. All three of those frames are made of the EXACT same alloy.
    4130 is an alloy that various manufacturers use to make tube sets from.
    520 is a tube set made by Reynolds from 4130.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velodad View Post
    Just incase people don't realize it. All three of those frames are made of the EXACT same alloy.
    4130 is an alloy that various manufacturers use to make tube sets from.
    520 is a tube set made by Reynolds from 4130.
    That's interesting, would have never known. I suppose it comes down to components and cosmetics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velodad View Post
    Just incase people don't realize it. All three of those frames are made of the EXACT same alloy.
    4130 is an alloy that various manufacturers use to make tube sets from.
    520 is a tube set made by Reynolds from 4130.
    Maybe so. However, there are other relevant issues such as forming of the tubing. The 520 tubes are double butted and the top tube is ovalized. This can result in both a lighter and stiffer frame. Since I don't own any BD bikes, I'm not going to go out on a limb and say it's absolutely so, but based on the specs I'd say the Kilo TT frame is significantly better, and worth spending an extra $50 to $70.

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    Absolutely--- the tube shaping, heat treating, etc. all are where the money is.

    Quote Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
    Maybe so. However, there are other relevant issues such as forming of the tubing. The 520 tubes are double butted and the top tube is ovalized. This can result in both a lighter and stiffer frame. Since I don't own any BD bikes, I'm not going to go out on a limb and say it's absolutely so, but based on the specs I'd say the Kilo TT frame is significantly better, and worth spending an extra $50 to $70.

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    Quote Originally Posted by filtersweep View Post
    Absolutely--- the tube shaping, heat treating, etc. all are where the money is.
    I totally agree. Just wanted the OP to know the material is the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
    Maybe so. However, there are other relevant issues such as forming of the tubing. The 520 tubes are double butted and the top tube is ovalized. This can result in both a lighter and stiffer frame. Since I don't own any BD bikes, I'm not going to go out on a limb and say it's absolutely so, but based on the specs I'd say the Kilo TT frame is significantly better, and worth spending an extra $50 to $70.
    its not. the windsor hour is a rebadged fuji track and the kilo is a rebadged khs flite 100. the hour is made from a butted tubeset as well. either will do fine to get you started on the track. id pass on the track though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatallightning View Post
    its not. the windsor hour is a rebadged fuji track and the kilo is a rebadged khs flite 100. the hour is made from a butted tubeset as well. either will do fine to get you started on the track. id pass on the track though.
    Where did you get this info?

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    It's been widely known for a long time. All one has to do is compare the bikes side-by-side and it's obvious that they're from the same factory. It's a misnomer to say that they're "rebadged," because Bikes Direct is simply purchasing the bike from the same catalog as KHS and Fuji. Also, they may vary in terms of parts spec.
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    Ended up going with the Kilo TT. For the price it's a great bike. it'll definitely keep me happy until I decide to invest in a true track bike.

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