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    Riding without a lockring on velodrome

    Hi, I happen to have a flip/flop hub and not a fixed/fixed hub and was wondering if it is safe to ride on the velodrome without a lockring. I am only 130lbs so is this ok/safe to do, or should I take the time to change gears in between workouts? Also will changing cogs to much wear down the threads of my hubs and cogs? What would you do? Thanks in advance.
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    I ride without a lockring. Just be careful when you thread on your cogs and you'll be fine. I see you're in Nor Cal. See you at the track =)

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    Were you at hellyer this weekend? If so we probably did see each other
    Last edited by aoto; 01-30-11 at 05:34 PM.
    It would be much appreciated if you kept your opinions about things you have only read about, and not really experienced or tried, to yourself.

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    Clean well and re-grease the threads each time you change gear and the hub should outlast you.

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    Lockrings are redundant riding on a track. The only caveat to that is if you are using the Miche system which makes changing cogs so much easier, but necessitates a ring.

    Should you spend time changing gears? Depends. You tend to change if you want to train in some specific way or gearing up/down for particular races. I tend to not change to 'warm up', but some riders are pretty religious about that.

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    I've never used a lockring, and there have been some hubs (specialized tri-spokes) that don't even accept them. I've known more people who've spun cogs off forward on standing starts (only a couple) than I've known people who have spun them off backwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bitingduck View Post
    I've never used a lockring, and there have been some hubs (specialized tri-spokes) that don't even accept them. I've known more people who've spun cogs off forward on standing starts (only a couple) than I've known people who have spun them off backwards.
    How do you spin a cog off forwards? that's the "tighter" direction

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    you strip the hub
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrainInAJar View Post
    How do you spin a cog off forwards? that's the "tighter" direction


    Quote Originally Posted by taras0000 View Post
    you strip the hub
    +1

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    Theoretically it can be done, but that doesn't mean you are not risking some serious (or embarassing) problems. In my experience, if you crank down hard and ride hard without a lock ring, you likely will not have any problem.

    If you change gears on the ďnon lockedĒ side often, you likely will have problems. Sooner or later you wonít spin it on tight enough and will be shocked to find you donít have brakes when you really need them (i.e. coming off the track into the pits).

    If you are not using a lock ring, donít grease the bloody thing! You need the friction to keep the gear on there.

    So, yeah it can be done if you put the gear on there tight and donít change it. If you change the gear on that side often Ė use a lockring. Sooner or later youíll have problems if you donít.

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    Problem solved. Just went to the LBS and they just showed me miche cogs.

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    All those years I skinned my knuckles pulling off cogs .... the guy who invented the Miche system, I owe you a beer good sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sideshow_bob View Post
    All those years I skinned my knuckles pulling off cogs .... the guy who invented the Miche system, I owe you a beer good sir.
    +1 seriously I was surprised nobody told me about this. Then I went to a primarily fixed gear bike shop and they showed me them. They just saved me lots of skin on my fingers.
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    id get one. $15 at most after tax

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