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Old 06-05-11, 09:01 PM   #1
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Just bought a Fuji Track Pro frame only, and I want to take it to the velodrome

Hey, first thread here.

Anyways, I've been riding fixed for a little more than 2 years, and road for the past couple months on my university's team. I ordered the 2009 Fuji Track Pro frame from Nashbar like a lot of other people, and it's set to ship out in July. I live 5 minutes away from the Encino Velodrome, so I figured I'd try the velodrome over summer.

The first problem is, I don't have a fork for the frame, and I'm on quite a budget. Fuji doesn't sell the forks individually, and it's kind of hard to find a fork with 35mm rake <$300 or so.
The second problem is that I'm switching over my Omniums and my stock Kilo TT wheelset over to the track pro until I get enough money. I'm wondering if this will present any problems?

Also, if anyone has advice on my problems and/or beginner tips with track cycling, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks guys!
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Old 06-05-11, 09:14 PM   #2
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The cranks and wheels will work just find, except you probably got one of the track pros that can only take up to 44 tooth chainring, which will cause all sorts of problems with racing. If thats the case you are much better off racing with the TT. But that was probably always the case, even if the track pro was the fixed one.
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Old 06-05-11, 09:18 PM   #3
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If thats the case you are much better off racing with the TT. But that was probably always the case, even if the track pro was the fixed one.
Can you explain this a little more?


And I thought the 44t was a typo. It comes stock with a 49t and people said that they can fit up to 52t on theirs.
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Make sure that Fuji Track Pro is the one with the redesigned chainstays, or your Omniums won't work, clearance-wise. It isn't a chainring issue, it's a chainstay thickness issue. It's why the complete bikes (during Gen. 1) were shipped with FSA Carbon Pro cranks and ISIS bottom brackets with MTB spindles (113). When we tried to put track cranks on ours, they all hit the chainstay. After a long battle with Fuji, I got a redesigned one.

Long story short, make sure that you got a redesigned one. I haven't seen any forks like that lying around. Problem is having to spec one that mates with the frame/headtube. Probably worth contacting Fuji N. America to see if they have any suggestions.
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Fuji rep said "There are countless track forks produced by many different manufacturers that will work. What you want is a 700c fork with a 1 1/8" threadless steerer tube that has a 35mm offset. Most manufacturers that produce aftermarket forks have a line of track forks that meet those specs."
So much for helping. I'll make sure tomorrow if I can that the Fuji isn't the bad model. What is a typical gear ratio, or gear inches for that matter, of beginner track cyclists?
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This is the fork I use. MSRP $195. I like it a lot:

http://www.dpmsports.com/dolan/05-al...rack-fork.html
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If you got the super deal off nashbar its 99% sure that you got the 44 tooth version, unless you got really really lucky. A typical begginer ratio would be in the 85 gear inch range. So you could ride the 44 front with a 14 rear and then if you want to at some point there are 13 tooth cogs that will give you right around 90 inches. But thats all the room you got, which will be a big hinderance down the road.
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This is the fork I use. MSRP $195. I like it a lot:

http://www.dpmsports.com/dolan/05-al...rack-fork.html

Would 30mm rake be too steep for a size 52 frame? I don't know how to calculate trail and all that. I don't even know what I'm talking about.

Also, I talked to a Nashbar rep, and he thinks the chainstays are the redesigned ones. Someone in the Fixed thread was able to put a 52t on his perfectly fine, so there is hope!
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Would 30mm rake be too steep for a size 52 frame? I don't know how to calculate trail and all that. I don't even know what I'm talking about.

Also, I talked to a Nashbar rep, and he thinks the chainstays are the redesigned ones. Someone in the Fixed thread was able to put a 52t on his perfectly fine, so there is hope!
Well, assuming that the geometry is the same as the current "Fuji Track 1.0", they use the same 74 degree head tube combined with the same 35mm fork on all sizes of that frame: http://www.fujibikes.com/bike/details/track_1_0

You are going to have crazy toe overlap with a 52cm frame, but that will happen even with a 40mm fork. I can't see 5mm less rake changing things dramatically. I think it's worth a try.
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http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post12737874

This person got the same frame from the same place. PM time.
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I'll save you the trouble...

My team and I ordered 6, we're 5 for 6 with the modded fuji chainstays (crimped at the factory to accept larger chainrings / a standard track bb)

I'm currently running a 103 spindle on my Dura Ace 7710s x 50t ring. No rub, about 2-3mm to spare. Size 52 cm.

One rider ordered a 61cm, and was sent the older non-modified version and has had to run the recommended stock FSA crabon crankset with a 110 bb spindle.
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That sounds good, I got the 52cm. I have the Omniums + external bb so I think I should be fine. Fingers crossed.
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