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Old 11-02-12, 11:47 PM   #2801
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Also, google cleat wedges.

I think they're exactly what you're talking about.
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Old 11-02-12, 11:50 PM   #2802
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This is how the extenders work:



Available in multiple widths:

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Old 11-03-12, 12:04 AM   #2803
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Cleat wedges were what I was looking for. I liked the angle that the vans and gr9s put my feet in, and just wanted to translate that to my clipless shoes. I just didnt know what to google. Thanx.

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Old 11-03-12, 01:04 AM   #2804
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On rollers? That's normal.

How long are your cranks?
On the road. I, unfortunately, own no sort of trainer. 172.5, IIRC. Been a while since I've thought about it.
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Old 11-03-12, 10:59 AM   #2805
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dude brah. just wondering since you have some professional knowledge about bike fitting. what is your opinion towards the competitive cycles fit calculator? is it something to follow word for word? or should it just give the user an idea of what their fit should be?
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On the road. I, unfortunately, own no sort of trainer. 172.5, IIRC. Been a while since I've thought about it.
It's harder to spin with longer cranks. Work on applying pressure at different angles...like instead of straight down, down and back a bit.

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dude brah. just wondering since you have some professional knowledge about bike fitting. what is your opinion towards the competitive cycles fit calculator? is it something to follow word for word? or should it just give the user an idea of what their fit should be?
Well, it starts with GIGO. It's a computer. Your results are only as good as your measurements.

Those computers are a good starting place. But, it really comes down to how you feel on the bike.

People should only buy online when they know the size they need. Otherwise there is a chance that you will buy the wrong size. It happens every day. This is why bike shops exist. Remember, mail-order existed before neighborhood bike shops.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sears_C..._order_catalog

...then local shops were preferred.

Now we are back to mail-order. Not sure why. To save a few bucks? Not worth it when you don't know exactly what you need.
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It's harder to spin with longer cranks. Work on applying pressure at different angles...like instead of straight down, down and back a bit.
I try to always do the complete spin on it. Like, applying pressure in the direction of pedal movement through the entire circle. I'll see if I can get some shorter crankarms.
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I try to always do the complete spin on it. Like, applying pressure in the direction of pedal movement through the entire circle. I'll see if I can get some shorter crankarms.
There are like 5-7 different pedal strokes depending on the torque that you are applying and the cadence. It's impossible to spin full circles at 130 rpm.
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Impossible is probably why I can't do it, haha. I'll look into these different strokes. Thanks bud!
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IIRC you have quite a large saddle to bar drop? That may be a contributing factor.
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Old 11-04-12, 02:17 AM   #2811
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I do indeed. Seņor Carleton, is that an issue?
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I do indeed. Seņor Carleton, is that an issue?
Lower isn't always better. Being too low will keep the hip flexors from activating.
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Hmm... I'll give it a shot. I'm not flat backed by any means, because I have wicked long arms.
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Old 11-05-12, 03:54 PM   #2814
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But, I'm heavy though. So, it's the whole power/weight ratio that has to be considered, too.
Going back quite a long time, why does power/weight matter on the track? Less climbing than florida.

Also, why don't we see much innovation in track components? The Dura-Ace Track crank is still internal BB, and even sora has an external bb now. What's the dealio there?
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Going back quite a long time, why does power/weight matter on the track? Less climbing than florida.
Try going from Zero to over 40MPH in less than 250M and in less than 18 seconds as in a team sprint:


Mark Cavendish can go fast. But he can't go fast quickly...which is why he isn't a track sprinter, he's a track endurance guy. A road sprinter has the same physiology as a track endurance racer.

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Also, why don't we see much innovation in track components? The Dura-Ace Track crank is still internal BB, and even sora has an external bb now. What's the dealio there?
SRAM Omnium and ROTOR Track cranks use external BBs. But, I'm not sure why Shimano, who's Dura Ace cranks are the most popular track cranks among elite racers, has not. Maybe it's an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." thing, which Shimano is known for. They still use caged-ball bearings in some of their high-end wheels.

I've ridden all of the major brands, and the DA cranks really do feel better. They got the alloy layup right. They are stiff, but give enough to provide some feel to them.
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Would using straight gauge spokes instead of butted spokes make a wheel stiffer? (all other things being equal)
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Would using straight gauge spokes instead of butted spokes make a wheel stiffer? (all other things being equal)
I know I'm not carleton but I have a feeling he would have told you to ask me because he's not a wheelbuilder.

http://www.wheelbuilder.com/spoke-information.html
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I know I'm not carleton but I have a feeling he would have told you to ask me because he's not a wheelbuilder.

http://www.wheelbuilder.com/spoke-information.html
Thanks Scrod! That answers it
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carleton would you do this if you made the olympic team? that's how I imagine your reaction

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No prob. Keep in mind that properly built wheel using spokes that are a little more springy will generally stay true a little longer because they will "recover" from hitting potholes and such instead of simply getting knocked out of whack and staying that way.
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carleton would you do this if you made the olympic team? that's how I imagine your reaction

Eh. Not really. My old coach was on the US Olympic team. She actually won a medal in the Olympics.

It's A LOT of hard work for little to no money. It's simply not worth it to some.
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carleton - how did those Nitto bars work out for you?
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carleton - how did those Nitto bars work out for you?
Awesome! Thanks!

I rode them on the track today. Here is a pic when I had a trainer tire on.

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That bike is a work machine. Everything thing about it reads watch out for me in March.
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That bike is a work machine. Everything thing about it reads watch out for me in March.
i was thinking the same thing, it reminds me of tropic thunder

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