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Old 09-27-11, 02:54 PM   #1276
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Andy Schleck is 6'1"
Taylor Phinney is 6'4"

One thing that the commentators note is that the height range of the athletes in the pro peloton is very large from shortest to tallest.



Here's one analysis of leaning and tall riders: http://www.analyticcycling.com/genmo...nAnalysis.html from http://www.analyticcycling.com/.
+ Johan Vansummeren, winner of 2011 Paris Roubaix, standing at 6'6".
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Dear Carleton,

My friend let me borrow his rollers (Minoura Actionroller Advance) and mentioned that he'd sell them to me for a "good deal." I've never used any kind of rollers before so I don't want to make an offer without some research. I'm having a hard time finding useful/trusted information regarding this specific brand and model, and I don't know what I should offer if I do buy them. Could you please give me some insight on how this one would compare to others in the same price range (MSRP~ $200)? How much would you offer for this one that's slightly used? Or perhaps you could recommend quality, durable (and maybe quiet?) rollers, that aren't too expensive? I don't have a set budget, I just want to get something with an ideal cost/quality ratio. Sorry if this question has already been asked!
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Dear Carleton,

My friend let me borrow his rollers (Minoura Actionroller Advance) and mentioned that he'd sell them to me for a "good deal." I've never used any kind of rollers before so I don't want to make an offer without some research. I'm having a hard time finding useful/trusted information regarding this specific brand and model, and I don't know what I should offer if I do buy them. Could you please give me some insight on how this one would compare to others in the same price range (MSRP~ $200)? How much would you offer for this one that's slightly used? Or perhaps you could recommend quality, durable (and maybe quiet?) rollers, that aren't too expensive? I don't have a set budget, I just want to get something with an ideal cost/quality ratio. Sorry if this question has already been asked!
Product specs: http://www.minourausa.com/english/tr...advance-e.html
Here is a review: http://beginnertriathlete.com/gear/r...?reviewid=1300
Seems to be a favorable review.

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They are discontinued, but are available on Amazon for $210 shipped. They are very similar to the Travel Trac Rollers sold by Performance which have got great reviews from my friends and from people online. These are on sale for $170 right now.

Minoura makes good rollers. I had a pair (different model) given to me and used them and passed them to a 3rd person who still uses them. I'd say 100 would be a good deal. Less would be better. More would be pushing it especially since you can get some Travel Trac for $170 new with warranty and generous return policy.

The more you use them, the easier they will be to use and you won't have to look down at all. I watch movies while on the rollers. What makes them quiet is actually your tires. The smoother the tire, the quieter the ride. I have Continental GP SuperSonic tires on my Mavic Ellipse which are completely smooth. They are very quiet. I have Conti Steher tires with a diamond thread on another set of wheels and they are sort of noisy.

I hope that helps.
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Thank you so much, Carleton! You've given me all the information I need. I'll keep riding on these for the next few days before I make a decision.
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+ Johan Vansummeren, winner of 2011 Paris Roubaix, standing at 6'6".
And Miguel "Big Mig" Indurian
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Thank you so much, Carleton! You've given me all the information I need. I'll keep riding on these for the next few days before I make a decision.
Awesome.
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Nice, since we are on the topic of rollers.

I plan on getting some Kreitler rollers because the internet makes me think they are the best.

Anyways, I want to get the 2.25" because I think: more resistance = better workout? Are they really that hard to ride?

Would this be a bad idea?
I've never ridden on rollers, I still consider myself a "beginner." I'm pushing a 48 x 16 right now and it's not too bad at all.
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Nice, since we are on the topic of rollers.

I plan on getting some Kreitler rollers because the internet makes me think they are the best.

Anyways, I want to get the 2.25" because I think: more resistance = better workout? Are they really that hard to ride?

Would this be a bad idea?
I've never ridden on rollers, I still consider myself a "beginner." I'm pushing a 48 x 16 right now and it's not too bad at all.
Kreitlers are great, but I've also heard good things about the Travel Trac.

In my experience, most roadies use the 2.25" rollers...but they have variable gears to adjust the load. Trackies tend to prefer the big drums and use the rollers for low-resistance warmups and cadence work. So, it really depends on how you intend to use the rollers.
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Since we're (still) on the topic of rollers..

What kind of resistance are we talking about here.. What diameter rollers provide similar resistance to riding somewhere flat on a calm day?

Is it possible to attach an external resistance mechanism.. like the fluid or magnetic deals you see on stationary trainers?

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Since we're (still) on the topic of rollers..

What kind of resistance are we talking about here.. What diameter rollers provide similar resistance to riding somewhere flat on a calm day?

Is it possible to attach an external resistance mechanism.. like the fluid or magnetic deals you see on stationary trainers?
The smaller rollers provide "real world" resistance. The large barrels provide less than real world resistance.

Many roller systems have resistance options. You have to look into them. I have a Headwind fan for my Kreitler rollers.
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Kreitlers are great, but I've also heard good things about the Travel Trac.

In my experience, most roadies use the 2.25" rollers...but they have variable gears to adjust the load. Trackies tend to prefer the big drums and use the rollers for low-resistance warmups and cadence work. So, it really depends on how you intend to use the rollers.
I want a good workout. I want to be pushing it indoors when winter comes around. That is my biggest goal.
The 2.25's might be hard to work up a high cadence, huh?

I read Kreitler also has a Lifetime Warranty? Could you tell me off-hand what can it really be used for?

Even more questions haha:

What size rollers do you have and what do you use them for?

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I want a good workout. I want to be pushing it indoors when winter comes around. That is my biggest goal.
The 2.25's might be hard to work up a high cadence, huh?

I read Kreitler also has a Lifetime Warranty? Could you tell me off-hand what can it really be used for?

Even more questions haha:

What size rollers do you have and what do you use them for?


If you want a resistance workout then buy a trainer instead of rollers.

Ask Kreitler how their warranty works.

I use 4.5" rollers. I use them for warming up and cadence work. I use my trainer for resistance work.
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If you want a resistance workout then buy a trainer instead of rollers.

Ask Kreitler how their warranty works.

I use 4.5" rollers. I use them for warming up and cadence work. I use my trainer for resistance work.
LOL. DUDE OKAY I GET IT...thanks.
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Dear Carleton,

Received the saddle + extras today. can't wait to bust it out on my first cold-weather metric.
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Received the saddle + extras today. can't wait to bust it out on my first cold-weather metric.
Awesome!
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Dear Carleton:

Do you like your Adamo saddle more or the Antares more?
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Do you like your Adamo saddle more or the Antares more?
Antares.

The saddle in the photo is not an Adamo. It's a Cobb V-Flow Max. But, it's remarkably similar to the Adamo because John Cobb designed the Adamo before the V-Flow. I did have an Adamo Pro once and hated it. It's OK for steady state riding (long time trials) but not for on/off the saddle riding like in races.
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Dear Carlton,

hard feelings? lol to be honest i was more worried about re posting a thread that was the same as others, last thing i thought i would get b i t ched out on is a title. i wasnt trying to put my s h i t on a pedestal...
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hard feelings? lol to be honest i was more worried about re posting a thread that was the same as others, last thing i thought i would get b i t ched out on is a title. i wasnt trying to put my s h i t on a pedestal...
No big deal. It wasn't personal.
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Dear Carleton,

Have you used the Chrome SPD shoes? Either way what's your opinion on those?

Basically, I'm looking for an alternative that's comfortable for riding around town and with the high possibility of longer rides. (I currently have all-city pedals with clips and they dig into all my shoes.)
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hey CJWIZRDGVNG, i just got a pair of black label pedals with some velcro foot retention straps (like reload or the ones at retrogression). They're really nice, and would be fine for the long hall. One of my friends biked 20 miles uphill (and 20 down) in them and he prefers them to clipless (although he mostly commutes with his bike).
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I've got a friend that does metric centuries and huge climbs in Mission Workshop Rondels. He seems to keep up pretty well. I imagine DZRs are very similar, but don't quote me.

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hey CJWIZRDGVNG, i just got a pair of black label pedals with some velcro foot retention straps (like reload or the ones at retrogression). They're really nice, and would be fine for the long hall. One of my friends biked 20 miles uphill (and 20 down) in them and he prefers them to clipless (although he mostly commutes with his bike).
I definitely thought about that and then the stigma of looking like a trick track rider came into my mind but I'm at the point where I DGAF.

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I've got a friend that does metric centuries and huge climbs in Mission Workshop Rondels. He seems to keep up pretty well. I imagine DZRs are very similar, but don't quote me.

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Those are really nice looking. I think I'd prefer to spend the few bucks to get some shoes I'd probably wear outside of riding rather than paying for $90 clipless Macbeth lookalikes (chrome) I'll never wear aside from riding.
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Unfortunately Rondels are super hard to come across at this point. DZR made them for Mission Workshop--look into them. I do wish, however, someone would make a lower profile SPD sneaker. Something like an all black vans shoe or something.
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