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    Thanks sillygolem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    Yes, I wrap from the stem outward. This eliminates the need for electrical (or whatever) tape to finish off the bar tape. The bar tape is finished off with the plug.

    I use higher quality grip tape (Lizard Skins, Fizik Microtex black or grey, Specialized Roubaix, Velox) which lays down very well. I've never had a problem with it rolling up. I think it's the thicker old-school cork type tape that will do that because it's thick and not tapered at the edges. All of the tapes that I've mentioned are tapered except for the Velox tape which is unpadded and lays down pretty thin anyway.
    thanx for the info...
    i use cinelli cork wrap, which i think is pretty thin, out of habit. seems like from your explanation it would work for this so i am gonna give it a try.
    got 1 last q...do you wrap the tape forwards or backwards over the top when you do it this way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markaitch View Post
    thanx for the info...
    i use cinelli cork wrap, which i think is pretty thin, out of habit. seems like from your explanation it would work for this so i am gonna give it a try.
    got 1 last q...do you wrap the tape forwards or backwards over the top when you do it this way?
    I don't think it matters, backwards or forwards. But, I wrap rolling the tape towards the back of the bike.

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    ok...thanx for your help
    keep up the good work...

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    Dear Carleton,
    Thank you for the fitment advice. The new frame fits perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by markaitch View Post
    ok...thanx for your help
    keep up the good work...
    No problem and will do!

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicSchwinn View Post
    Dear Carleton,
    Thank you for the fitment advice. The new frame fits perfect!
    Sweet! I'm glad that it worked out for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    No problem and will do!
    hey carleton...here is my new inside-out wrapping. i hate wrapping bars, have no patience, so couldn't have done it without your assist. after a couple days of pretty hard riding, i am very pleased with it. wish i had discovered this way to wrap before...


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    Looks good!

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    Yeah, that wrap job looks great.

    The color however, is questionable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherblock View Post
    ...The color however, is questionable.
    yeah, it is a lil splashy...but i like it

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    Dear Carleton,
    I rode at the local velodrome on Sunday, and it was awesome. It should be illegal to have that much fun only going in circles. I do, however, have a question. While riding quickly, not necessarily a sprint, I would start to bounce in the turns. I wasn't out spinning my legs. Is this something that I may get used to or better with track time? Could it be I'm fighting the g force generated in the turns and need to relax more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigcraigcraig View Post
    Dear Carleton,
    I rode at the local velodrome on Sunday, and it was awesome. It should be illegal to have that much fun only going in circles. I do, however, have a question. While riding quickly, not necessarily a sprint, I would start to bounce in the turns. I wasn't out spinning my legs. Is this something that I may get used to or better with track time? Could it be I'm fighting the g force generated in the turns and need to relax more?
    Not sure, but I'm definitely going to try to go to Boulder's velodrome when I'm home (DTC) for Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigcraigcraig View Post
    Dear Carleton,
    I rode at the local velodrome on Sunday, and it was awesome. It should be illegal to have that much fun only going in circles. I do, however, have a question. While riding quickly, not necessarily a sprint, I would start to bounce in the turns. I wasn't out spinning my legs. Is this something that I may get used to or better with track time? Could it be I'm fighting the g force generated in the turns and need to relax more?
    It could be as simple as your saddle height being too high (or too low) or it may be that your muscles aren't used to firing at that cadence so you are getting some "feedback" with the butt hop. This is common.

    So, try lowering your saddle maybe 1cm if it's kinda high. But understand that it's really hard to offer this kind of advice sight-unseen. Maybe you can ask an experienced person at the track, "Do my legs look like they are extending too far or not enough?"

    If it's not saddle height, then you'll just need time spinning at those cadences. It was probably at 110 to 120RPM. I used to hop at 120RPM, then it would smooth out after that. Also, there are like 5 different pedal strokes for different RPM ranges. But, developing these takes lots of time.

    So, a track-specific bike fit would help out a lot. This costs money, but it really helps a lot. I was at my bike fitter today for like the 5th or 6th time this year. But, I'm tweaking millimeters at this point. By "track specific" I mean being fit by someone that is familiar with the sport of track racing. 95% of track racing happens at high RPMs while in the saddle. So, efficient (saving energy) and effective (making speed) spinning is very, very important.

    Rollers help tremendously because you are in an isolated environment with little resistance spinning at higher than normal cadences. This is like a magnifying glass on your pedal stroke. Smooth it out on the rollers and you'll be ultra-smooth on the track.

    Congrats! You are a "trackie" now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    Also, there are like 5 different pedal strokes for different RPM ranges.
    this is interesting. what makes a certain pedal stroke ideal for its RPM range?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onezerozeroone View Post
    this is interesting. what makes a certain pedal stroke ideal for its RPM range?
    It makes the pedal stroke smoother.

    I find it odd that you don't capitalize the first words of your sentences, yet you capitalized "RPM".

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    Quote Originally Posted by LocoTracks View Post
    Not sure, but I'm definitely going to try to go to Boulder's velodrome when I'm home (DTC) for Christmas.
    Sweet, let me know when you are here and we can go ride!
    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    It could be as simple as your saddle height being too high (or too low) or it may be that your muscles aren't used to firing at that cadence so you are getting some "feedback" with the butt hop. This is common.

    So, try lowering your saddle maybe 1cm if it's kinda high. But understand that it's really hard to offer this kind of advice sight-unseen. Maybe you can ask an experienced person at the track, "Do my legs look like they are extending too far or not enough?"

    If it's not saddle height, then you'll just need time spinning at those cadences. It was probably at 110 to 120RPM. I used to hop at 120RPM, then it would smooth out after that. Also, there are like 5 different pedal strokes for different RPM ranges. But, developing these takes lots of time.

    So, a track-specific bike fit would help out a lot. This costs money, but it really helps a lot. I was at my bike fitter today for like the 5th or 6th time this year. But, I'm tweaking millimeters at this point. By "track specific" I mean being fit by someone that is familiar with the sport of track racing. 95% of track racing happens at high RPMs while in the saddle. So, efficient (saving energy) and effective (making speed) spinning is very, very important.

    Rollers help tremendously because you are in an isolated environment with little resistance spinning at higher than normal cadences. This is like a magnifying glass on your pedal stroke. Smooth it out on the rollers and you'll be ultra-smooth on the track.

    Congrats! You are a "trackie" now.
    Sweet, thanks. I just thought I would ask in-between my classes to get an idea of what to ask when I get there. It's too much fun really.

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    Dear Carleton,

    Is wheel weight less of an issue with track racing, if there is an aero benefit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaytron View Post
    Dear Carleton,

    Is wheel weight less of an issue with track racing, if there is an aero benefit?
    It depends. If you are doing mass start races where speed changes a lot, then a heavy wheel will wear on you. If you are doing a time trial where you get up to speed and hang on, it's less of an issue, but it's still an issue.

    That being said, I wouldn't spend money to race some B43s. Those things are too heavy. I think deep Vs or similarly deep rims are the deepest alloy rims I've seen around. Deeper than that, they are carbon like the Zipp 404 and deeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    It depends. If you are doing mass start races where speed changes a lot, then a heavy wheel will wear on you. If you are doing a time trial where you get up to speed and hang on, it's less of an issue, but it's still an issue.

    That being said, I wouldn't spend money to race some B43s. Those things are too heavy. I think deep Vs or similarly deep rims are the deepest alloy rims I've seen around. Deeper than that, they are carbon like the Zipp 404 and deeper.
    What's the weight on B43s anyways? I was looking at a pair of Soul wheels for the fixed, because I was going to get their 30mm wheel for the roadie (1400g) and their 40mm wheel can be made for SS/FG and weighs in at about 1700g (a bit heavy).
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    1700g is light for a fixie wheel,1400 grams is ridiculously light for track wheels.But I love it,You can build 1300g track wheels for around 350 dollars(if you build them yourself)closer to 4215 if you have them built.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoozyMcliverRot View Post
    1700g is light for a fixie wheel,1400 grams is ridiculously light for track wheels.But I love it,You can build 1300g track wheels for around 350 dollars(if you build them yourself)closer to 4215 if you have them built.
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    Dear Carleton,


    Quote Originally Posted by giantcfr1 View Post
    here's a nice Bridgestone for ya that an old dude near my house owns.

    You gusta?

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    Yes.


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    Dear Carleton,
    What do you think of the red bull mini drome?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kghtRevkUJA

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsawyer View Post
    Dear Carleton,
    What do you think of the red bull mini drome?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kghtRevkUJA
    I'm not saying this because I race on the velodrome (I think you all should give track racing a try) but, it's just dumb. 14 meters (45ft) is 4 or 5% of the length of a real velodrome.

    How absurd would it be if someone built a 14 meter running track and had races on it? How about 4ft long basketball court with hoops 2ft off the ground? It would be hard to take any of it seriously. And it didn't even look fun. A skatepark is more fun if you want weird obstacles and transitions.

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