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Old 11-20-11, 03:56 PM   #1551
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a stationary trainer is so much better than a roller trainer. you will get your ass kicked on a stationary trainer
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That's like saying that running shoes are so much better than hiking boots. They do completely different things in a similar way. It depends on what one is trying to accomplish.
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they serve two different purposes. but to buy a fork mount for the same price as a (cheap) stationary trainer, is a bad deal.
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Old 11-20-11, 07:24 PM   #1553
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I've been thinking about upgrading my mark v pro recently and am currently torn right now. Im deciding whether I should get Omniums to replace the 130bcd andel cranks or if I should get a carbon fork for comfort.

One thing with the carbon fork though is that the original mkvp fork has a 30mm rake and I havent been able to find a good one in the 100-175 price range. Any suggestions?

Would I notice any difference with the 130bcd to 144bcd swap w/ stiffer cranks? Or would I need POWAR LEGZ to notice anything.

Found an Alpina fork with 30mm on ebay. Now another question is... which would you perfer for an upgrade?

30mm rake Alpina carbon fork (from a steel fork) or Omniums (from 130bcd andel cranks) scuse the repost
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I've been thinking about upgrading my mark v pro recently and am currently torn right now. Im deciding whether I should get Omniums to replace the 130bcd andel cranks or if I should get a carbon fork for comfort.

One thing with the carbon fork though is that the original mkvp fork has a 30mm rake and I havent been able to find a good one in the 100-175 price range. Any suggestions?

Would I notice any difference with the 130bcd to 144bcd swap w/ stiffer cranks? Or would I need POWAR LEGZ to notice anything.

Found an Alpina fork with 30mm on ebay. Now another question is... which would you perfer for an upgrade?

30mm rake Alpina carbon fork (from a steel fork) or Omniums (from 130bcd andel cranks) scuse the repost
Ask Scrod about products.

Upgrade to solve problems. No problems? No need to upgrade.

Chances are you won't notice the difference between 130/144 BCD in terms of performance. 144 is the track standard made for stronger riders. 130BCD is for road bikes. If you aren't changing chainrings, it's not an issue. 130BCD is the road standard because there is need to run a small chainring, usually a 39t inner ring. Compact road cranks need an even smaller 34t inner ring, which requires 110BCD. So, it's the inner ring that makes the BCD go down, not the outer. Track bikes don't use an inner ring, so they are free to use 144BCD.

I love Alpina forks. I have had them on both my Tiemeyers (F04 and Wing Pista). The Alpina F04 30mm carbon fork is $200. Only $25 out of your price range. It's worth it. http://www.spiukusa.com/dolan/05-alp...rack-fork.html

If your current fork transmits too much vibration, then a carbon fork might solve the problem...or some Specialized Roubaix grip tape.
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Old 11-20-11, 10:35 PM   #1555
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Dear Carleton,

Are track racers fast off the track? I feel like they might be, but all that muscle might get in the way. Just for a general idea, how fast can you run a mile?

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Are track racers fast off the track? I feel like they might be, but all that muscle might get in the way. Just for a general idea, how fast can you run a mile?

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Two completely different animals IMO.
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That's what I was thinking.
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don't mention running and cycling as cross training in the roadie forum
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Are track racers fast off the track? I feel like they might be, but all that muscle might get in the way. Just for a general idea, how fast can you run a mile?

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If you are referring to track vs. other cycling sports then yes, at least some of time. Look at pro riders Marc Cavendish (HTC>Sky) and to a lesser extent Taylor Phinney (BMC). Do not forget there are various disciplines of track racing that require different strengths and skill-sets.
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Carleton,
I know this has been posted before, but I could not come up with the correct search terms. All other things being equal, how would seat height change when you:
a.) Increase/Decrease length of crank arm?
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b.)Increase/Decrease the fore/aft movement of the saddle?
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Dear Carleton,

Are track racers fast off the track? I feel like they might be, but all that muscle might get in the way. Just for a general idea, how fast can you run a mile?

Thanks!
It's different.

It's not uncommon for track sprinters to injure themselves in a foot race for fun. It's because many of the muscles are very strong, but there are a few that are not equally strong, like hip flexors and posterior chain muscles, that get injured.

It's possible to make the transition to track and field, but there will be a period of transition.

By the way, the mile would be considered an endurance event.

Please stop asking questions about me. Please.

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Two completely different animals IMO.
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Carleton,
I know this has been posted before, but I could not come up with the correct search terms. All other things being equal, how would seat height change when you:
a.) Increase/Decrease length of crank arm?
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b.)Increase/Decrease the fore/aft movement of the saddle?

The key point is to keep leg extension constant. Do this by measuring from the center of the BB to the top of the saddle before you change anything. This is your baseline measurement. That is your leg extension.

- When cranks get shorter, raise the saddle. When cranks get longer, lower the saddle.
- When the saddle goes back, it must go down. When the saddle goes forward, it must go up.[/B]
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Okay good, I thought I was the only who couldn't run
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No, you're definitely not.
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Dear Carleton,
Do you know what the point of this extended BB is on this ROssin?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROSSIN-Track...ht_25387wt_932

Is it to get some special geometry? Because to me it looks like that BB would flex a ton :/
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Old 11-22-11, 02:57 PM   #1566
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I block cross site cookies. I looked it up by the item # 260896844355.

I have NO idea what's up with that frame.
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Thanks for trying

It just looks so ridiculous!
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Dear Carleton,

One of my locknut/sleeve nut (I think that's what it's called) broke and I need help finding some online but I'm having trouble searching for some. Also how would I know that it'll fit.

http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=413166

This is the only one I've found and I don't have a Surly hub.

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Dear Carleton,

One of my locknut/sleeve nut (I think that's what it's called) broke and I need help finding some online but I'm having trouble searching for some. Also how would I know that it'll fit.

http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=413166

This is the only one I've found and I don't have a Surly hub.

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Some companies call it a "grip nut". It keeps the axle from spinning as you tighten the wheel nut.

What brand of hub do you have?
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Old 11-22-11, 04:41 PM   #1571
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Haha, that's funny. I had the same exact problem and had no idea what that thing was. I was trying to figure out what it was and what it did and someone led me to believe it was a spacer I think.

Now I know. Thanks carleton.
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Some companies call it a "grip nut". It keeps the axle from spinning as you tighten the wheel nut.

What brand of hub do you have?
I have a Origin 8 hub.
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Old 11-24-11, 05:25 PM   #1573
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Hey Carleton,
I figure you would know as much as anyone about good training technique. I know next to nothing, so bare with me. What I do know is that I want to still ride my Soma in the winter and I can't do it outside and I'm too far from an indoor track. It looks like the two options in my price range (around or under $150) are rollers or resistance trainers. If I use one of those regularly over the 3 month snowy season, which would provide me with the most noticeable gains when I get back on the road in the spring?
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Old 11-24-11, 05:32 PM   #1574
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I'm curious. Why can't you ride the Soma through snow?
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The real question is how could you ride the Soma through snow... seeing as, you know, theres snow everywhere.
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