Jaytron, start reading first then posting your question here: http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdispl...-Training-Area
He can and will certainly see accelerated gains if he chooses to do this (periodize).
He'll also probably see gains if he continues to just "JRA" as well call it in the 33 (just ride around), atleast for a little while.
This is what I was trying to get at:
Because you're bigger isn't a good answer
"Your beauty is an aeroplane;
so high, my heart cannot bear the strain." -A.C. Jobim, Triste
Just curious, but how do you think a professional keirin racer would do against a professional track racer like awang or chris hoy? i'm pretty sure the keirin racer would not really stand a chance, but what if he was using a newer, stiffer frame than the steel njs frames? would it make a differnece?
What about in a karate fight?
Anyone hear the band "Das racist"?
Those keirin riders are by no means slow.
Chris Hoy is just... insanely, insanely fast and strong, and seemingly unstoppable right now.
Also, I would never discredit climbing as a viable training method to increase strength. At high intensity it will most certainly increase strength. If anyone is concerned about climbing developing different muscles, just find a lower grade and mash up it repeatedly.
I can safely say that ANY sprinter from a UCI World Cup event can easily qualify and race on the Keirin circuit with no problem. The other way around is not true.
YES, you *may* hear hills mentioned in some track training programs. But, it is never the core of the program. It's simply a supplemental exercise...like the bench press or lunges.
There is Koichi Nakano though, who took gold 10 years in a row, however many consider his racing style to be dishonorable.
Koichi Nakano won when sprinting was much much different than it is now. 1) it was slower and 2) the gears were much lower. In those days, international professional sprinters raced on 90-96 gear inches. Now the gears are well over 100 gear inches...using similar cadences.
I'm not saying that a Japanese rider can't compete in the world ranks. In the 2012 World Championships Seiichiro Nakagawa finished 11th in sprints and in the Keirin Kazunari Watanabe finished 5th and Yudai Nitta finished 12th.
My point is that the JKA Keirin riders, in general, are not on the world level in terms of sprinting. It's simply a different style of racing.
Last edited by carleton; 04-15-12 at 04:01 AM.
I always thought that keirin was like sumo, that there were huge cultural barriers for entry. Anyway is a 1:15 kilo a reasonable place to start to see if you are competitive? I've been timing myself on a mile time trial l and I thought I was pretty slow because I can't get it under 2:02. I thought that must be pretty slow because Major Taylor's was 1:19 but maybe that was paced. If a 1:15 kilo is competitive then maybe I'm not doing too bad.
I actually didn't want to know if 1:15 was competitive, in the "could this time mean you might be a world champion" sense but more in the "could this time mean you wouldn't necessarily come in last at a local event" sense.
I saw that you are now riding a Dolan and I would like your opinion on it, not sure if you stated it before (if so just a link to it will be fine). Do you think a Seta would be sturdy enough for the road with some open pros or would the frame wear very quickly (within a year) I know you don't own a seta but based on your knowledge of your current steed.
Unfortunately, I don't have any advice as to what type of weight training you should do. Endurance riding is not my thing.
Yeah, the Seta will be fine for street use.
But, if you are worried about some sort of inbalance, don't. If you are doing standard exercises that use the entire leg, like the back squat, front squat, leg press, or dead lift, you are also working your calf. It is stabilizing you the whole time and getting stronger along with the rest of your leg.