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    Anyone know where the Felt TK2 is assembled?

    After renting bikes at the local velodrome for quite a while I am now looking to buy a track bike of my own. Currently I am decieding between the Bianchi Pista Concept, the Cannondale track and the Felt TK2. Does anyone know where the Felt is made? I try to steer clear of anything made in the Far-East. Any suggestions on these three bikes?

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    Why do you want to stay clear of anything in the Far East? There are good track frames are made in Japan especially their Keirin bikes. Steel is Real!

    S/F,
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    Here is your FELT answer http://www.feltracing.com/technology.html

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    Ceya-
    I couldn't find the answer on the link you gave me, the only talk about any sourcing of materials/production I saw was (the common fact) that Scandium is mined/found in Russia. Does anyone know where they are assembled?

    And as to why I do not care for products of the far-east, among many other reason's-
    +Quality of life in many of the countries, including much of Japanese industrial areas. I do not wish to promote buying products made in a country where people are treated as a means rather than as an end (ie it's many times like promoting slave labor).
    +The lack of that intelectual spark which produces new ideas (thinking out of the box). The east has built it's industry on mimicking and many times plagiarizing the ideas of the western inventor, as an engineer myself this is very important to me.
    +And the fact that jobs are being taken from Americans and Europeans, the people who have made the world what it is today.

    I do not wish to get into a political discussion here; I just wish to purchase a good track bike that I will be happy with/proud to own and be able to race, reliably, for the next few years.
    Last edited by invincibleone; 11-30-04 at 12:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by invincibleone
    Ceya-
    I couldn't find the answer on the link you gave me, the only talk about any sourcing of materials/production I saw was (the common fact) that Scandium is mined/found in Russia. Does anyone know where they are assembled?

    And as to why I do not care for products of the far-east, among many other reason's-
    +Quality of life in many of the countries, including much of Japanese industrial areas. I do not wish to promote buying products made in a country where people are treated as a means rather than as an end (ie it's many times like promoting slave labor).
    +The lack of that intelectual spark which produces new ideas (thinking out of the box). The east has built it's industry on mimicking and many times plagiarizing the ideas of the western inventor, as an engineer myself this is very important to me.
    +And the fact that jobs are being taken from Americans and Europeons, the people who have made the world what it is today.

    I do not wish to get into a political discussion here; I just wish to purchase a good track bike that I will be happy with/proud to own and be able to race, reliably, for the next few years.
    I really doubt if felt and bianchi is not made in far-east.
    by the way, many of good quality track components are made in Japan. I'm sure you are avoiding them as well since they (like shimano or sugino) lack new ideas.

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    Invincibleone,

    You could go to the contact page and email your question to them.
    You need to look in the USA custom makers..Go to http://www.oldskooltrack.com/files/home.frame.html

    Some Bianchi are made in the far east.. sorry...Taiwan and some in Italy. Not like the early 80's when they were made in Italy all of them.

    All track compoents are Japanese(Shimano,Suntour, Sugino) or Campy. Campy is getting rare due to only one groupo being made.

    S/F,
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    Quote Originally Posted by invincibleone
    Ceya-
    I couldn't find the answer on the link you gave me, the only talk about any sourcing of materials/production I saw was (the common fact) that Scandium is mined/found in Russia. Does anyone know where they are assembled?

    And as to why I do not care for products of the far-east, among many other reason's-
    +Quality of life in many of the countries, including much of Japanese industrial areas. I do not wish to promote buying products made in a country where people are treated as a means rather than as an end (ie it's many times like promoting slave labor).
    +The lack of that intelectual spark which produces new ideas (thinking out of the box). The east has built it's industry on mimicking and many times plagiarizing the ideas of the western inventor, as an engineer myself this is very important to me.
    +And the fact that jobs are being taken from Americans and Europeans, the people who have made the world what it is today.

    I do not wish to get into a political discussion here; I just wish to purchase a good track bike that I will be happy with/proud to own and be able to race, reliably, for the next few years.

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    Don't forget Miche.

    I love how EVERY link to OST only links to the top level frame. Genius.

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    BT,

    Thanks for reminding me. I do want to try out the new grouppo they have out now.

    S/F,
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    How about a made in England custom track frame?

    Mercian Frame Information

    Super Vigorelli

    The original track model in the Mercian range. Built to order with Italian lugs and heart shaped cut-outs.

    Designed for pure track racing, the Super Vigorelli is built to individual requirements or to our recommended specification.

    The frame is built with Prugnat plain lugs and has a strong Milremo two-plate round fork crown, with quality track ends used.

    The fork crown is drilled for a brake for occasional use on the road, but this can be omitted and even closer wheel clearance can be had upon request.


    Super Vigorelli Specification
    631 double butted 'Competition' tubing
    Size to order - 48cm to 66cm (centre bottom bracket to top of seat tube)
    74 head angle - 74 seat angle
    272 mm bottom bracket height
    33 mm fork rake
    405 mm chainstays
    16 mm seat stays with MERCIAN engraved at top
    Close clearance for 700C wheels only, no mudguard eyes
    Quality track ends
    Additional braze-ons extra as price list
    Seat pillar size - 27.2mm (not included

    http://www.merciancycles.co.uk/frames.htm
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    The Mercian Super Vigorelli is beautiful and appears to be a wonderful machine. It, however, is sold only as a frame; a frame which (after conversion) goes for around $925 alone. The bikes I am interested in go for between $950-$1350 for a complete ready-to-race bike. I would be lucky to build a Mercian track bike for twice that. Thank you for the suggestion, but they are a little out of budget.
    invincibleone

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    have you checked out spicer cycles? their basic aluminum and steel frames are both under $400.

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    Well the Cannondale Major Taylor is no longer being produced. So the Felt TK2 moved potentionally moved up to top spot on my christmass wish list. But Info is scarce and I havent seen one in person just looking at their website, looks good but I wish I could ride one first.

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    ktmmauler-
    Who told you they were no longer being produced? I very recently spoke with the folks at Nytro.com out of Encinitas, CA and they informed me they were available and would take about 2-3 weeks to order. They said nothing about it being discontinued.

    AND THE RESULTS ARE IN:
    The Felt TK2 is Made in Taiwan (BUMMER)

    Which leaves me to deciede between:
    A. Bianchi Pista Concept (YES IT IS DEFINATELEY MADE IN ITALY)
    B. Cannondale Major Taylor (AMERICAN MADE[obviously])

    jitensha_de_go! the spicer looks nice and I will perhaps consider it but I am really looking for a factory complete bike.

    Any suggestions comments? Any mail order bike shop with particularly good deals on either of these?

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    I emailed cannondale looking asking about sizing info. I have not done any track racing and I was asking them for their recomendation on size. And they told me they are discontinued for 2005. Then I went to a local shop to see if they can call around and find one in someone elsed stock and they cant find one. Too bad so sad! They had top end components and an american made frame...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ktmmauler
    Well the Cannondale Major Taylor is no longer being produced. So the Felt TK2 moved potentionally moved up to top spot on my christmass wish list. But Info is scarce and I havent seen one in person just looking at their website, looks good but I wish I could ride one first.
    My mate purchased a TK2 and it is a very nice bike.There were only a limited number brought into Oz and all have sold out(until early next year).The bike is awesome however if your a bigger guy and planning on sprint work id be tossing the handelbars as they flex abit if your heavy.

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    I don't know if you got a bike yet, or what size you're looking for, but I have a 56 cm Medici to sell. It's 56/56, and the geometry is a little tight, so I was feeling cramped. I haven't listed it yet because I broke the front wheel (using it on my other bike) and haven't gotten around to rebuilding it. I'm local to you (ride at ADT reasonably often, and have ridden a bit at Encino, but not since ADT opened) so you can check the bike out if you're interested.

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