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Old 04-20-12, 08:09 PM   #1
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Unnamed Frame - Know it? Reviews?



http://www.amazon.com/Track-Fixie-Ro.../dp/B005KWW8S0

It's on Amazon, for ridiculously cheap, and I'm in the market for a cheap, nice track bike to start racing with. I just spent all my money on a Ridley Noah frameset assuming that I'd be able to race on the loaner bikes at Giordana for a couple months, but apparently you can't race on the loaners. So to get me racing, I'm looking for something.

Long story short, this bike is a ridiculous $140 on Amazon, plus an equally ridiculous $10 shipping.

It's not exactly light, 2800g for the headset, frame, and fork, which is a whole kilo heavier than my not known for being light Noah, but whatever, it's a track bike.

It says on Amazon that it's "Made in famous factory, although we cannot disclose the brand". It looks familiar, but I can't place it. It looks very similar to a Langster, but certain things are off, unless it's a model year I haven't seen. It looks like a mix between a 2011 and a 2012. It has the 2012 headtube where the downtube and top tube meet, but the 2011 seat tube and seat post.

Anyone know what frame this might be? Anyone tried one of these, have reviews of it? For $150 I feel like it's hard to go wrong. You can barely get a chainring for that.

In other news, where do people shop for track components? Most of my go to sites are for road or mountain stuff.
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Looks like the BD Motobecane Team Track:
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...team_track.htm
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if i was in the market for an inexpensive track frame (and i'm not ) i would seriously consider this in a larger size.
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Looks like the BD Motobecane Team Track:
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...team_track.htm
The Motobocane Team Track is the old Fuji Track pro. This not that frame. It's just a cheapo frame.
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http://www.amazon.com/Track-Fixie-Ro.../dp/B005KWW8S0

It's on Amazon, for ridiculously cheap, and I'm in the market for a cheap, nice track bike to start racing with. I just spent all my money on a Ridley Noah frameset assuming that I'd be able to race on the loaner bikes at Giordana for a couple months, but apparently you can't race on the loaners. So to get me racing, I'm looking for something.

Long story short, this bike is a ridiculous $140 on Amazon, plus an equally ridiculous $10 shipping.

It's not exactly light, 2800g for the headset, frame, and fork, which is a whole kilo heavier than my not known for being light Noah, but whatever, it's a track bike.

It says on Amazon that it's "Made in famous factory, although we cannot disclose the brand". It looks familiar, but I can't place it. It looks very similar to a Langster, but certain things are off, unless it's a model year I haven't seen. It looks like a mix between a 2011 and a 2012. It has the 2012 headtube where the downtube and top tube meet, but the 2011 seat tube and seat post.

Anyone know what frame this might be? Anyone tried one of these, have reviews of it? For $150 I feel like it's hard to go wrong. You can barely get a chainring for that.

In other news, where do people shop for track components? Most of my go to sites are for road or mountain stuff.
Just because a frame is made in the same factory doesn't mean it's a good...or even decent frame.

For $150 you can go very wrong. Would you buy and race a $150 road frame? What about quality control?

You don't know anything about the geometry. The geometry of a bike on the track is arguably more important than it is on the road.

You've been around long enough to know that you will not build a bike from the frame up for less than if you buy complete. So, why are you going through this exercise? If you build a bike made of the cheapest parts you can find...you will have the cheapest bike that money can buy and it will probably handle like such. If you don't care what you get (which it seems because you are considering this frame) then just buy a complete bike. There is a thread listing 2012 Complete Track Racing bikes not far down in the thread list.
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Point taken. I was mostly looking at frame up because the cheap bikes came with 133bcd cranks, flip flop hubs, crap chainrings, etc. I figured I'd get a cheap frameset for now, nice components, and then swap the components later when I have money/figure out I enjoy track racing.

That Team Track is awfully nice looking though.

Edit: I don't see the thread you mention with complete bikes. Is it in the SS/FG?
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Point taken. I was mostly looking at frame up because the cheap bikes came with 133bcd cranks, flip flop hubs, crap chainrings, etc. I figured I'd get a cheap frameset for now, nice components, and then swap the components later when I have money/figure out I enjoy track racing.

That Team Track is awfully nice looking though.

Edit: I don't see the thread you mention with complete bikes. Is it in the SS/FG?
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...k-Racing-Bikes
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Quite a few of those cheaper track frames hovering around the tracks in Oz. Lots of happy campers, but if you check the ebay feedback on a lot of them, there is quite a bit of dodgy welding. So they can be good, but they can also be bad. Just depends if you want the bother of getting a bad one and having to send it back if you can or living with the imperfections.

You could likely get a much better second hand frame if you were prepared to sit and wait and scour the market.
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Quite a few of those cheaper track frames hovering around the tracks in Oz. Lots of happy campers, but if you check the ebay feedback on a lot of them, there is quite a bit of dodgy welding. So they can be good, but they can also be bad. Just depends if you want the bother of getting a bad one and having to send it back if you can or living with the imperfections.

You could likely get a much better second hand frame if you were prepared to sit and wait and scour the market.
Yeah, that's the biggest problem is the quality control. Most are fine, but some frames that would be rejected for sale by higher-end companies are passed by budget companies. That's why the name brand companies have to charge more because they can't recoup any $$ from the defects.

A friend recently bought some 80mm deep dish carbon rims from a similar budget company. They gave the wheel builder fits as the inner diameter wasn't what was specified in the spec, nor was it any other uniform distance. It took the builder months to figure out that he needed MULTIPLE spoke lengths to get the hub in the dead-center of the outer rim. A lesser builder would have given up.

I've heard tales of the rear dropouts on a particular budget frame not sending the wheel in a straight line. It was off at a slight angle.
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