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Old 08-01-12, 07:31 PM   #1
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2012 Olympics Track events

Haven't seen a thread about this in here yet. I'm looking forward to watching this, currently working at NY NBC supporting the Olympics and get to watch live the days I work.

Looking forward to seeing Shane Perkins in the match sprints and the Keirin, which Chris Hoy will also be competing.

So, let's discuss, who are your favorites? What are you looking forward to seeing?

Another thing is that the Velodrome is gorgeous...
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Old 08-01-12, 07:40 PM   #2
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Looking forward to seeing Chris Hoy in the keirin. Jason Kenny and Gregory Bauge in the sprint. When the team pursuit is competitive it's really exciting to watch. Unfortunate that the individual pursuit won't be raced.
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That BBC doco on Victoria Pendelton put together quite the back story for that competition...
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That velodrome is a work of art really. I was watching a program about how everything was built and how both the swimming arena and main stadium can have the grand stands removed at the end of the games to lower the maintenance costs. I think the velodrome is the only facility that is not going to be taken apart (in some way) at the end of the games because of the cycling park it sits on.

And damn the one day I wanted to watch something on the olympics live at work, I forget my head phones! ARG!
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shame that V. Pendleton and Jess Varnish were DQ'd in team sprint today.
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Rules are rules though... Was a bit of drama today!
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Does anyone have video that shows the exchange area and explains it? I've never ridden a team sprint, so I don't know how it works. Seems like it's pretty hard to do since 2 (3?) teams got DQd today.
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So you have to give up your lead no sooner than 15m before the lap and no later than 15m after the lap? And you have to be up track and out of the way of the other riders by 1m to be considered no longer leading.

At their speeds that's less than a 2 second window. And it's not marked on the track, so you just have to kind of know where it is. The 10m are marked on the floor, but good luck reading those at 40 mph.

Is there even a need for this rule at all? It seems like they'd change there anyway, even if they didn't have to. 3 riders, 3 laps, it just makes sense. Considering how often the best people in the world get DQ'd for this (worlds, Olympics, etc), it seems like maybe it's a little too hard to do. Maybe it should be 30m, or no rule at all?
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So you have to give up your lead no sooner than 15m before the lap and no later than 15m after the lap? And you have to be up track and out of the way of the other riders by 1m to be considered no longer leading.

At their speeds that's less than a 2 second window. And it's not marked on the track, so you just have to kind of know where it is. The 10m are marked on the floor, but good luck reading those at 40 mph.

Is there even a need for this rule at all? It seems like they'd change there anyway, even if they didn't have to. 3 riders, 3 laps, it just makes sense. Considering how often the best people in the world get DQ'd for this (worlds, Olympics, etc), it seems like maybe it's a little too hard to do. Maybe it should be 30m, or no rule at all?
Is that why both the British and Chinese teams were penalized ?

I've been looking everywhere for an explanation of what happened, and your post is the first thing I've read with any details of what happened.

It would be nice if a detailed explanation had been given during the broadcast.

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Is that why both the British and Chinese teams were penalized ?

I've been looking everywhere for an explanation of what happened, and your post is the first thing I've read with any details of what happened.

It would be nice if a detailed explanation had been given during the broadcast.

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In both cases the second rider came through too soon. No complaints as far as the Brits are concerned, Pendleton pretty much accepted afterwards that she had gone too early. The slow-mo on the Chinese is equivocal, though, it was marginal at best. I think they are justified in feeling robbed.

Looking at the form the British team seems to be in, we're in for an interesting few days. How many world records were broken last night? Four? Five?
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So you have to give up your lead no sooner than 15m before the lap and no later than 15m after the lap? And you have to be up track and out of the way of the other riders by 1m to be considered no longer leading.

At their speeds that's less than a 2 second window. And it's not marked on the track, so you just have to kind of know where it is. The 10m are marked on the floor, but good luck reading those at 40 mph.

Is there even a need for this rule at all? It seems like they'd change there anyway, even if they didn't have to. 3 riders, 3 laps, it just makes sense. Considering how often the best people in the world get DQ'd for this (worlds, Olympics, etc), it seems like maybe it's a little too hard to do. Maybe it should be 30m, or no rule at all?
No, this isn't the case. That statement is about the lead rider leaving the sprinters lane in the exchange zone.

Basically, there are 2 rules in play here:

1) The lead rider MUST exit the sprinter's lane in the exchange zone, not before and not after. (Varnish did not break this rule)

2) The following rider cannot pass the lead rider until AFTER they pass the pursuit (start/finish) line.

Rule #2 is the rule that was broken.

There is video showing Pendleton (#2 rider) passing the pursuit line before Varnish (#1 rider). It's a fraction of a second before, but it was clear as day on the replay. That's why they didn't contest it. It was a fair call.

Pendleton actually completed lap 1 faster than Varnish.

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In both cases the second rider came through too soon. No complaints as far as the Brits are concerned, Pendleton pretty much accepted afterwards that she had gone too early. The slow-mo on the Chinese is equivocal, though, it was marginal at best. I think they are justified in feeling robbed.

Looking at the form the British team seems to be in, we're in for an interesting few days. How many world records were broken last night? Four? Five?
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By the way, they were both at fault, as Pendleton states in an interview afterwards.

Basically:
- Varnish should have stayed on the gas till she passed the pursuit line.
- Pendleton should have held back a touch.

Pendleton is probably riding faster than ever. A nice problem to have. Too bad that it caused this infraction.
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haha, yikes.
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Pendleton is probably riding faster than ever. A nice problem to have. Too bad that it caused this infraction.
Yeah, being too fast is kind of a nice problem to have, if you have to have a problem. With all of that anxiety and adrenaline in your system, it is hard not to let loose sometimes...
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Yeah, being too fast is kind of a nice problem to have, if you have to have a problem. With all of that anxiety and adrenaline in your system, it is hard not to let loose sometimes...
I just learned that she won the Keirin in impressive fashion. All of her teammates are tweeting about how she's flying right now.

I'm headed home now to try and find video of it.
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I just learned that she won the Keirin in impressive fashion. All of her teammates are tweeting about how she's flying right now.

I'm headed home now to try and find video of it.
She was imperious. As were the mens pursuit team. The GB track squad appear to be in ludicrously good form, I'm amazed. Thought they would struggle to repeat their Beijing performance.
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[h=1]Women's Team Pursuit[/h]wow, bested their own world record set only yesterday... phantastic effort and a pure joy to watch. Phenomenal !!!
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wow, bested their own world record set only yesterday... phantastic effort and a pure joy to watch. Phenomenal !!!
They've broken the world record in every one of their last six competitive races. Astonishing.
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She was imperious. As were the mens pursuit team. The GB track squad appear to be in ludicrously good form, I'm amazed. Thought they would struggle to repeat their Beijing performance.
I watched it last night. Wow.

It also seemed like Meares didn't contest it at all. Yeah, she attacked early, but it was a soft attack. She never attacked (or defended) hard later. It was like her job was to set the pace then not contest the sprint. Notice how at the end every woman got out of the saddle to reaccelerate...except Meares.
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Carleton, can you post a link to the vid? Having trouble finding anything. And thanks again for last week.
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Yeah, but that's Ross Edgar up there. Soaking wet with socks stuffed into his pockets he weighs less than one of those plates.
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Yeah, but that's Ross Edgar up there. Soaking wet with socks stuffed into his pockets he weighs less than one of those plates.
According to Hoy, who commented when this pic went viral, the weight was 631 kg and he did five reps. "I could have squeezed out another rep but Ross was laughing at me".
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USA Women Silver Medal in Team Pursuit...what a surprise!
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USA Women Silver Medal in Team Pursuit...what a surprise!
Lots of credit to Sarah Hammer, taking monster turns and pacing it to keep the team together. Impressive.
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Carleton, can you post a link to the vid? Having trouble finding anything. And thanks again for last week.
I watched it on the BBC website. I can't find the link anymore. I'll keep looking and report back when I find it.
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