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Old 11-14-12, 09:44 PM   #1
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[Video + Commentary] Match Sprint Finals | Burnaby Velodrome | 3 Day Track Classic

There was a 3 day race in Burnaby BC, Canada this weekend. I went up for the sprint omnium. I ended up placing first in all the races.

The first video is me and the second is Kyle Buckosky.


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Old 11-14-12, 11:50 PM   #2
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Cool vids man. Nice job on the races.
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Nice videos and commentary.

It's really good to show some local/regional sprinting. Most people that are new to the sport only come across videos of world-class racers.

To the folks who my not have done this before: Things move faster than the video makes it appear. A lot of the things that seem obvious by watching are tough to process when you are out there moving 35 to 40+ mph (55 to 65+ kph).

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Nice added touch with the commentary.
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Good sprints, and good tactical analysis.

As I was watching the first one, I was really surprised that you were able to take it. He really had superior positioning and jumped you well. But you did a good job with damage control, getting up to speed and eventually preventing him from coming around you. That forced him to ride the wider radius several times, and that distance differential made the difference at the end.
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Good commentary, very perceptive. You're right that your opponent would likely have made it much closer had he dropped down in front of you at 1 1/2 laps to go, but he didn't quite have clear "track room," so it would have been a gutsy move. Where you won the race was going into turn 1 at one to go when you did not back off as he started dropping onto the red line. This forced him to back off, and he lost it right there. Anytime you back off in the last 200 meters, you're never going to make it up.

Had I been officiating Kyle's race (the second one), I would have come close to restarting the ride as they approached a stop at 100 meters in. The lead rider must maintain a "walking pace" for the first lap, and it was getting into a crawling pace there...

The Burnaby track, due to its banking, gives a huge advantage to whoever leads into the final lap. The inside is a real shortcut! My last race there was a 6-day in 2008, but I still train there regularly, and I like to help out at the Friday evening races. It's been a fabulous track for developing Canadian riders. Unlike your typical outdoor concrete 333 velodrome, a 200-meter board track actually teaches you how to take advantage of the banking, among other things. You have to be alert, as things tend to happen real fast especially with more than 20 riders on the track. If you can ride Burnaby, you have the confidence to ride anywhere!

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Great videos, thanks for posting. Things like this are a great learning opportunity for those of us (me) that are new to the sport!
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Great videos, thanks for posting. Things like this are a great learning opportunity for those of us (me) that are new to the sport!
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Had I been officiating Kyle's race (the second one), I would have come close to restarting the ride as they approached a stop at 100 meters in. The lead rider must maintain a "walking pace" for the first lap, and it was getting into a crawling pace there...
I didn't catch that, you are absolutely right. You can see Jeremy on the phone while the track stand is happening; someone else was "officiating".

I agree with you 100% on learning to ride at Burnaby.

Marymoor is my home track and it's a different world. At 400m it's one of the longest and flattest tracks in the US. You can see everything unfold right in front of your eyes, take some time to think about it, then react. At Burnaby everything is instantaneous.

It's interesting to see how different tactics are from track to track.
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Here is the third day with the Keirin finals:


What are everyone's thoughts on the annotations (commentary/pauses)? I want to make it easier for people to digest.

In the first post (match sprints) I have the race played out to completion and then repeated a second time with commentary.

In this post (keirin) I have the race being played out only once, but you have the option to remove the comments / pauses.

Do you prefer the back to back repeat or the option to repeat it yourself?
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