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Old 12-14-12, 10:40 PM   #1
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Timing on the track

Pantani98's thread got me thinking of this. I use an edge 500 on the road with my bikes. I wouldn't imagine GPS would work too well on the track. What do you all use on training days? I would imagine a flying 200 w/o some sort of accurate track timing system would be hard? Friends with a stopwatch?
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It's nice, but you don't need to have a watch on you at all times. Especially with technical stuff like 200 and start, sometimes its good to just "practice".
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Pantani98's thread got me thinking of this. I use an edge 500 on the road with my bikes. I wouldn't imagine GPS would work too well on the track. What do you all use on training days? I would imagine a flying 200 w/o some sort of accurate track timing system would be hard? Friends with a stopwatch?
GPS is useless for tracking high-speed efforts...and just about anything on the track for that matter.

Get the optional ANT+ speed sensor that measures from your wheel.

For the flying 200M in particular, take note of top speed. Top speed is directly related to your flying 200M time. You can also use a $50 Cateye Strada (or similar) computer to do the same thing.

Remember: Top speed is directly related to your flying 200M time. So, if you are training and don't have someone to time you, just take note of your top speeds and you'll have an idea of how you are doing. After a while you'll be able to make a good guess of your F200M time based on your top speed. At my home track, I can guess my F200M time within 0.1" based on my top speed.
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Cool, thanks.
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For those who don't know, GPS measures intermittantly and calculates the speed based on how long since the last reading and how far you traveled...in a straight line.

The GPS system doesn't expect you to make the quick 180 degree turns that happen when you enter and exit a turn.

GPS great for average speed over a 1-4 hour ride through the city or countryside. Not so much for 12-second to 5-minute efforts on a relatively small circuit.
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Strava says that I averaged 100.2 KM/H on a lap of my local 333 concrete velodrome... I'm pretty sure that is accurate!!

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Strava says that I averaged 100.2 KM/H on a lap of my local 333 concrete velodrome... I'm pretty sure that is accurate!!

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Somebody get Jamie Staff on the phone!! We have found our new Great American Track Sprinter!!
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Somebody get Jamie Staff on the phone!! We have found our new Great American Track Sprinter!!
Sorry to disappoint Carleton... I'm Australian!

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Sorry to disappoint Carleton... I'm Australian!

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Meh. Doesn't matter.

Plus, he almost got Njisane Phillip to leave his country and ride for the US.

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CYCLIST Njisane Phillip has been offered the opportunity to ride for the United States. Yesterday, at a function hosted by The Beacon Insurance Company to award Phillip and other sponsored athletes, Phillip revealed that his American coach Jimmy Staff has already began making arrangements for him to ride for the US at the 2016 Olympic Games in Brazil.
http://www.newsday.co.tt/sport/0,152618.html


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He's a great rider... It was awesome to see him beat Forstermann in that sprint at the Olympics!

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He's a great rider... It was awesome to see him beat Forstermann in that sprint at the Olympics!

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Yeah, I agree. But, if I remember correctly, he made some bonehead moves in the match against Perkins in the semi-finals. Basically, Phillip didn't keep an eye on Perkins.

I've seen Phillip race in person at Trexlertown. He's a really dynamic and explosive rider. Definitely exciting to watch. I think he even won the Pro scratch race that night when other sprinters were dropped from the pack half-way through.
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