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    White Industries hubs

    Does anybody here use White Industries track hubs? I was thinking about giving them a try, but the bronze track nuts seem like they would strip easily. I guess I could always change them out. Any reviews or anecdotes would be appreciated, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkWW View Post
    Does anybody here use White Industries track hubs? I was thinking about giving them a try, but the bronze track nuts seem like they would strip easily. I guess I could always change them out. Any reviews or anecdotes would be appreciated, though.
    Nobody really uses them. They use a proprietary splined hub (not recommended) and are more expensive than normal hubs yet don't perform any better than Dura Ace or Formula hubs. So, why bother?

    I've only seen them on "bling" street bikes and bike show bikes, not on race bikes.

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    For similar hubs that *are* used by racer, look at the Zipp Track Hubs. Really nice.

    http://www.zipp.com/wheels/detail.php?ID=35

    They come in the Zipp 404 and 808 track wheelsets and can get them as hubs only.


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    White Ind.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkWW View Post
    Does anybody here use White Industries track hubs?
    I was thinking about giving them a try, but the bronze track nuts seem like they would strip easily.
    I guess I could always change them out.
    Any reviews or anecdotes would be appreciated, though.
    I have a few sets.
    Good hubs.
    Price is less than some, more than others.
    Track Front High Flange Front Track Hub $193.64 Track Rear High Flange Rear Fixed or Flip/Flop $203.95
    Proprietary cogs put off trackies.
    White makes ROLFS track hubs.
    Wheel builder uses their proprietary cogs on the powertap hub.
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    Thanks, guys.

    Anyone have any experience with Paul hubs?

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    Are you planning on building a set of race wheels? All the hubs you are bringing up have the bling factor that makes more sense in the fg/ss section of the forum. Nothing wrong with that; most of us are there too. But this is just for track racing specific discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayce View Post
    Are you planning on building a set of race wheels? All the hubs you are bringing up have the bling factor that makes more sense in the fg/ss section of the forum. Nothing wrong with that; most of us are there too. But this is just for track racing specific discussion.
    +1

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    Don't worry folks, he's not trying to match his hubs to his riser bars. Mark is a track racer.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkWW View Post
    Thanks, guys.

    Anyone have any experience with Paul hubs?
    They have a good reputation - sturdy, good bearings, good hardware, etc. But for track hubs, I'm not convinced that the cost is buying performance improvement, so I'd simply lean toward either a much cheaper hub, or a classic high flange looseball hub.
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    Paul hubs are designed around a 44mm chainline, where as most standard track hubs are AFAIK built around a 42mm chainline. Its not a huge difference but combined with the price, its enough to make you think twice.

    If you really want something flash, then Phil wood track hubs are lovely and work great for training/racing. Or Royce hubs if you really want to push it out there. But most of the cheap-o track hubs are more than up to the task these days esp as swapping out the cartridge bearings for something a little more 'racey' is easy.

    I would say whatever you buy, if possible get a double sided hub. Generally they will build into a stronger wheel and if you're training (and thus changing cogs a lot), if you accidentally strip a cog thread (which I've seen folks do when they're rushing) then the wheel is still usable.

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    Thanks, mattio.

    yeah, I'm building race wheels. This is for a new frame that I'm having built, and it's a little special to me, so I'm looking to build it up with something fancy-ish. As long as it can also stand up to racing. I was originally looking at dura ace 7710 hubs, but I'm not sold on them, so I'm weighing my other options. Those zipps are nice, but too expensive and don't seem to come in 32h anymore, and Phils just seem way too heavy for racing. They seem more like street hubs.

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    What is your hub budget?
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    It's hard to say. I'm at a shop, so I'm thinking in terms of wholesale or EP pricing. I'd like to keep that around $200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkWW View Post
    Thanks, mattio.

    yeah, I'm building race wheels. This is for a new frame that I'm having built, and it's a little special to me, so I'm looking to build it up with something fancy-ish. As long as it can also stand up to racing. I was originally looking at dura ace 7710 hubs, but I'm not sold on them, so I'm weighing my other options. Those zipps are nice, but too expensive and don't seem to come in 32h anymore, and Phils just seem way too heavy for racing. They seem more like street hubs.
    So, is this bike for "show" or "go"?

    If Dura Ace hubs are good enough for those in the highest levels of the sport, they are good enough for me


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    Gregory Bauge:



    Front wheel is Mavic Ellipse and rear is Dura Ace hub.

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    Also why are you set on 32 hole for your race wheels?

    Trainging wheels I would say for sure do 32. But race wheels can stand to be lower count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkWW View Post
    Thanks, mattio.

    yeah, I'm building race wheels.
    This is for a new frame that I'm having built, and it's a little special to me, so I'm looking to build it up with something fancy-ish.
    As long as it can also stand up to racing.
    Those zipps are nice, but too expensive and don't seem to come in 32h anymore, and Phils just seem way too heavy for racing.
    28H should take care of business.
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    yeah, the 32h requirement comes from me being unable to find good aluminum tubular rims in 28h that aren't black. Why not black? The frame builder doesn't think I should use black parts. I was originally going to go with silver velocity escapes, but apparently they're not made anymore, which I think is a damn shame.

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    Your frame builder is telling you what colors to use?

    Who's paying who? Use whatever the hell you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    So, is this bike for "show" or "go"?
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkWW View Post
    yeah, the 32h requirement comes from me being unable to find good aluminum tubular rims in 28h that aren't black. Why not black? The frame builder doesn't think I should use black parts. I was originally going to go with silver velocity escapes, but apparently they're not made anymore, which I think is a damn shame.
    Annnnd that answers my question

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