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MarkWW 04-13-13 08:26 AM

K-Edge Garmin Saddle Mount
 
Since the new USAC rules prohibit a visible computer display, I've been spending some time thinking about how to hide a garmin so I can still record my race data. I had the idea recently to try mating a k-edge garmin handlebar mount to a k-edge gopro saddle mount. While it wasn't exactly plug and play, it went together easily enough. The slot on the garmin mount needed just a small amount of filing to fit the screw spacing for the gopro mount. If you don't feel the need to also use a gopro, you can just use the handlebar clamp screws to attach the garmin mount to the saddle rail piece of the gopro mount. Otherwise, M4x16mm screws work perfectly to fasten all three pieces. Here's some photos:

The Mount:
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p23/ikfish/Mount.jpg

With an Edge 500:
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...sh/Edge500.jpg

With an Edge 510:
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...sh/Edge510.jpg

With an Edge 810/800:
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...sh/Edge810.jpg

David Broon 04-13-13 11:38 AM

My bikes uses a 27.2 Seatpost, I just put my garmin on there facing backwards.

xengravity 04-13-13 12:18 PM

You can keep it on your stem, just turn it upside down so that the display is facing the ground.

Pantani98 04-13-13 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by David Broon (Post 15506280)
My bikes uses a 27.2 Seatpost, I just put my garmin on there facing backwards.

+2 I have the Garmin bar mount that I use when training and such but I actually use the rubber band stem mount that came with my Edge 500 on the seatpost. Locks right in, turn it on and go. Problem solved. :)

Jaytron 04-14-13 04:06 PM

I had no idea that was banned. When did this change?

carleton 04-14-13 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaytron (Post 15509925)
I had no idea that was banned. When did this change?

Same here. MarkWW, can you cite a reference or the actual rule number? I'm not saying you are wrong, but this is sort of a big deal that would affect a LOT of road and track riders.

Also, thanks for the writeup and pics. This is a cool $50 solution that has a lot of less expensive solutions. I know guys who raced Masters Pan Am and Masters Worlds and simply taped over their displays and passed bike check.

David Broon 04-14-13 06:15 PM

I don't know about USAC, Especially since I'm Canadian. I know for UCI Events, you can't be able to see your screen on the track, though it's legal for road/tt/mtb.

There's a really cool gallery from a track world cup last year of riders SRM displays mounted behind their saddles:
http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/a...engines-33634/

carleton 04-14-13 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by David Broon (Post 15510269)
I don't know about USAC, Especially since I'm Canadian. I know for UCI Events, you can't be able to see your screen on the track, though it's legal for road/tt/mtb.

There's a really cool gallery from a track world cup last year of riders SRM displays mounted behind their saddles:
http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/a...engines-33634/

I used that gallery to prove that Flying 200M cadences were much lower than the 150RPM that was being preached in another forum.

Guys are going faster using lower cadences than in the 1990's.

MarkWW 04-14-13 07:20 PM

It's only a track rule.

From https://s3.amazonaws.com/USACWeb/for...k-Chapter2.pdf
2B13. Riders may carry no object on them or on their
bicycles that could fall onto the track. Any electronic device
with a display (speedometer, power meter, etc) must be
hidden such that the riders cannot read it while riding.

My thighs hit the garmin when I just have the regular mount rubber banded to the seatpost.

EDIT: This is a new rule adaptation for 2013. I asked the local head track official if they'll be enforcing it and he said "of course".

Jaytron 04-14-13 07:42 PM

Thanks Mark! Good to know.

David Broon 04-14-13 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carleton (Post 15510300)
I used that gallery to prove that Flying 200M cadences were much lower than the 150RPM that was being preached in another forum.

Guys are going faster using lower cadences than in the 1990's.

It's funny, I had always assumed that a larger gear like an 88in would be faster, but I've been setting my PR Times on a 84in recently. I've been working on smoothing out my spin, so that's probably a lot of it.

xengravity 04-15-13 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkWW (Post 15510481)



My thighs hit the garmin when I just have the regular mount rubber banded to the seatpost.

My hams hit the computer too, which why I just keep it on the stem upside down.

USAC announced updates to the rules a few months ago. If you haven't yet, you should read up on them. Another important one is 2h2a: Pushing is no longer allowed in Keirins.

TWD 04-17-13 08:37 PM

why not just stick it in a pocket? skin suits?

carleton 04-17-13 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWD (Post 15523469)
why not just stick it in a pocket? skin suits?

I've seen cell phones and other stuff "jump" out of pockets on the track.

TWD 04-17-13 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carleton (Post 15523562)
I've seen cell phones and other stuff "jump" out of pockets on the track.

nothing will jump out of Castelli pockets this season. I can barely get a bar out of them. I think this says more about their elastic than me

do you guys have issues with policy for fixing a camera (contour) on your bars or rear facing? I suspect helmets fixed is out with our officials but think on the bike should be fine

xengravity 04-17-13 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWD (Post 15523469)
why not just stick it in a pocket? skin suits?

It specifically says in the rules that you cannot do that.

Hida Yanra 04-24-13 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWD (Post 15523611)
do you guys have issues with policy for fixing a camera (contour) on your bars or rear facing? I suspect helmets fixed is out with our officials but think on the bike should be fine


The USAC rules do not ban a camera (or two), unless Phil get REALLY fussy about the "un-nescessary equipment" rule, which he has not had a problem with to this point.

I ran this specific question past the officials at Marymoor last season as our team was going to start mounting cameras on bikes for sponsor footage, they said it wasn't a problem at all.

Without a direct conversation w/ track officials I can't swear to it, but from talking to well connected trackies the last few weeks I understand that the "no visible computer" rule will be enforced at all sessions.

Not the Slowest 04-25-13 10:56 AM

I saw a number of 3's last night @ Kissena with their Garmin upside down on the stem. No one at our end stated the rule however some of these guys may have heard something through the grapevine or from T-town.

Not the Slowest 04-25-13 09:17 PM

LOL, I just looked at the OP, Right MarkWW??, Boy am I stoopid, but I am King of the Chariot Push Off.

MarkWW 04-25-13 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not the Slowest (Post 15554105)
...but I am King of the Chariot Push Off.

definitely. much appreciated.

Not the Slowest 04-26-13 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkWW (Post 15554254)
definitely. much appreciated.

I would ask for some payback, but unless you start BULKING up, I may need someone more like Andrew Lacorte's size. Nothing personal of course


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