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    Generic Track Frame?

    I'm looking into building my own bike, and I was wondering what thoughts you guys have on this frame I found...

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A1C9T7ACO5T769

    It looks VERY similar to the Dolan Track Champion. Would I be better off just getting a Dolan? It would be about $100 more than the build that I currently have in mind (see attached image). I could also, instead, get a Dolan Pre Cursa which would be the same price as building my own. Are there other track bikes/frames that you guys could recommend?


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    + SRAM 48T Crankset & GXP BB (not shown in image)
    Last edited by willy704; 05-19-13 at 09:41 PM.

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    Do you plan on training/racing or riding on the street?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    Do you plan on training/racing or riding on the street?
    Training/racing

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    Quote Originally Posted by willy704 View Post
    Training/racing
    Here's the thing with "eBay" frames:

    - You don't know what you are getting.
    - They are marketed towards "street fixie" riders
    - The angles may not be track specific.

    I would go with the Dolan Precursa being that it's a known frame.

    I've found that it's more expensive to buy a bike a-la-carte than to buy complete. Have a look here:

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...Complete-Bikes
    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...k-Racing-Bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    Here's the thing with "eBay" frames:

    - You don't know what you are getting.
    - They are marketed towards "street fixie" riders
    - The angles may not be track specific.

    I would go with the Dolan Precursa being that it's a known frame.

    I've found that it's more expensive to buy a bike a-la-carte than to buy complete. Have a look here:

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...Complete-Bikes
    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...k-Racing-Bikes
    Ugh, I just emailed Dolan, and shipping is so damn expensive; it would be 450 total to buy the frame and ship it to my house. Are there any good track bikes that I can easily have shipped in the US that you can recommend?
    Last edited by willy704; 05-20-13 at 09:54 PM.

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    450 is INCREDIBLY low for a decent quality track frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayce View Post
    450 is INCREDIBLY low for a decent quality track frame.
    Ya, but the rest of the parts will cost me another 500. I don't feel like I need a thousand dollar bike seeing as I am just starting out.

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    You have two options. Buy a $300 bike that needs another $100-$200 in upgrades to keep it ridable for a few seaons. Or spend $1000-$1500 now and not need to get anything until you get to the national champion level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayce View Post
    You have two options. Buy a $300 bike that needs another $100-$200 in upgrades to keep it ridable for a few seaons. Or spend $1000-$1500 now and not need to get anything until you get to the national champion level.
    I see your point. Unfortunately, I'm only 14, so my parents are going to be paying for this bike, and they don't want to spend a fortune. I'll probably take a look at my local velodrome. I think that they occasionally sell units from their loner fleet (Felt TK3s) for like half of retail price.

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    Here's the thing about a decent track bike: a thousand dollar bike will last you for a long-ass time. Honestly, a frame/fork that costs four hundred bucks is something that can be ridden successfully at a very high level - and i can't say the same for the frame/fork that you linked. a bunch of red flags go up about stuff like that, and it basically tells me that yeah, it might be cheap in the short run, but in a year or two you're gonna buy another frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willy704 View Post
    I see your point. Unfortunately, I'm only 14, so my parents are going to be paying for this bike, and they don't want to spend a fortune. I'll probably take a look at my local velodrome. I think that they occasionally sell units from their loner fleet (Felt TK3s) for like half of retail price.
    OK.

    Consider the Fuji Track Classic: http://www.fujibikes.com/bike/details/track_classic_12

    Then upgrade things as needed.

    This bike is used as the loaner/teaching bikes at many tracks. It's not great, but it's a start.

    What is your bottom line budget?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    OK.

    Consider the Fuji Track Classic: http://www.fujibikes.com/bike/details/track_classic_12

    Then upgrade things as needed.

    This bike is used as the loaner/teaching bikes at many tracks. It's not great, but it's a start.

    What is your bottom line budget?
    I want to get something under 700. I was also looking at IRO Mark V. Would that be a good option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by willy704 View Post
    I want to get something under 700. I was also looking at IRO Mark V. Would that be a good option?
    The bike that I suggested above is $500.

    No offense, but you probably won't get much "what should I buy on a budget" hand holding.

    The best deals will come on used complete bikes. If you are on a budget and want nicer things, look on the used market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    The bike that I suggested above is $500.

    No offense, but you probably won't get much "what should I buy on a budget" hand holding.

    The best deals will come on used complete bikes. If you are on a budget and want nicer things, look on the used market.
    Thanks, I'll look around for used deals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willy704 View Post
    Thanks, I'll look around for used deals.
    In the mean time, you can go to a bike shop to find out what size frame you need. Frames come in 2cm increments for a reason. That will help you. Don't buy a bike/frame that isn't your size just because it's a good deal. You *will* eventually replace it if it doesn't fit. That's wasted money.

    Report back with what you find and we'll say "Yes that's good" or "Not really". But, asking what bike is for you out of the dozens available is a lot to ask.

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    Also consider the fact that in being only 14, you will most likely need a new frame in the not too distant future anyway.

    With that in mind, I would keep an eye on the second hand market and keep your focus on the componentry attached to the frame. Do your research and keep an eye out for something with close to what you want and run with it. When it comes time to go to a larger frame, you can just transfer over all the good bits.

    When I started, I wanted at least a good crankset. I got a great ebay deal that included Dura Ace hub wheels and DA crankset. Those bits are still kicking around on my current ride.

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    I think that I might go with the frame that I originally was going for. I know it's not the best, but it has overall positive reviews and I'll probably outgrow it within a year or two, so longevity is not too big of a deal for me. I'll be putting quality components on it, anyway (SRAM crankset, SRAM BB).

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    Quote Originally Posted by willy704 View Post
    I think that I might go with the frame that I originally was going for. I know it's not the best, but it has overall positive reviews and I'll probably outgrow it within a year or two, so longevity is not too big of a deal for me. I'll be putting quality components on it, anyway (SRAM crankset, SRAM BB).
    Why? Did you not read what I wrote about not knowing the angles? Not to mention, poor quality control and no real return policy.

    I've worked on "ebay" frames before and they are inexpensive for a reason.

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    I just found the frame on Ebay.


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Track-Fixie-...-/300722824594

    The geometry is awful for track racing:


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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    I just found the frame on Ebay.


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Track-Fixie-...-/300722824594

    The geometry is awful for track racing:


    Ok, you have convinced me. I didn't realize that the geometry would be so off.

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    You can get a Kilo TT frame in bikeisland.com or a complete kilo tt on bikesdirect.com.
    They have classic track geometry and are a good value for what they are. I've had one for over a year, held up well on the street, and is getting me through my first track season without issue.
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    Is the Leader 725 frame good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagrom_ View Post
    You can get a Kilo TT frame in bikeisland.com or a complete kilo tt on bikesdirect.com.
    They have classic track geometry and are a good value for what they are. I've had one for over a year, held up well on the street, and is getting me through my first track season without issue.
    I would probably get it, but I want an aluminum frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willy704 View Post
    I would probably get it, but I want an aluminum frame.
    Dude, buy a complete bike. It is cheaper.'

    If all of your parts arrived today in 10 boxes, what would you do next?

    Do you have tools? Do you have a BB install tool? Do you know how to assemble them? If not, you will have to pay a shop around $100 to assemble it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    Dude, buy a complete bike. It is cheaper.'

    If all of your parts arrived today in 10 boxes, what would you do next?

    Do you have tools? Do you have a BB install tool? Do you know how to assemble them? If not, you will have to pay a shop around $100 to assemble it for you.
    I was going to the tools at my local bike coop as far as installing the components. I think I will just end up buying a complete. I'm heading down to the track on Monday and I'll see if the have anything on sale.

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