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Flatballer 06-21-13 07:12 AM

Favorite and Least Favorite Events
 
Just curious to see what people's favorite events are. Couldn't really make the poll work on here, so I had to make it external.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/RCP5QY6

Flatballer 06-21-13 02:15 PM

Very interesting results so far, but only 7 people, hardly a strong sampling. I wish I could make a better poll here, but you're limited to 10 choices, and I wanted to include all the events I could think of.

Favorite events is shaping up basically how I expected, but least favorite is surprising.

Feel free to comment here too, this isn't exactly scientific anyway.

Brian Ratliff 06-21-13 03:18 PM

My most favorite is match sprint. Least is tempo. I have tasted blood in the back of my mouth after more tempo races than I care to recall, at least when I was a Cat 3 and prior to committing to sprint.

Racer Ex 06-21-13 04:49 PM

None of those.

You left out a bunch of national and Olympic events for "break up the boredom" weeknight stuff.

There's no such thing as a legendary ride in the snowball.

Kilo. Pursuit. Team pursuit. That's where the blood comes.

Flatballer 06-22-13 08:58 AM

Yeah, I left out all the TT stuff, sorry. I almost didn't put in match sprint.

I'm mostly interested in what people's least favorite break up the boredom stuff is. At our track the weeknight races rotate throughout the month, with 1 each of scratch, points, miss and out, win and out, split scratch, tempo, chariot, wheel, and unknown distance.

I'm wishing they would do more of the popular ones and less of the stupid ones. Maybe have one night of the short, stupid stuff like tempo, win and out, wheel. Do more of the standard olympic stuff like scratch, points, miss and out. They also only do match sprints once every other month and time trials once every other month.

Kayce 06-22-13 12:22 PM

Speeking from the organizer side. The "break up the boredom stuff" is the best for training series for a few reasons. It allows for the most groups to run easily a night, big fields can be accommodated, they offer a lot of learning opportunities, and they are predictable in length.

Time trials and match sprints take a lot of time, and 95% of the racers are just hanging out while they happen. That is why they are not done on special nights, and not very often. Training series are all about getting the most people on the track for the longest time.

VanceMac 06-22-13 12:51 PM

Scratch and Points are like Texas Hold'em. Most of the other (mass start) stuff is like No Peek Baseball in a bad home game. I'm okay with Miss-n-Out to break up the Scratch/Points... but it doesn't matter what that third event is, I never look forward to it like I do with Scratch/Points. Keirin is always a kick, but tough to squeeze that into most omniums.

Lew. 06-22-13 01:12 PM

I love the stuff that's less than a kilometer - being a youth rider and everyone at my club being roadies, they all tear me apart in the long stuff, but I get my own back in sprints/short TT.
And being a bit of an outsider to the track scene, I don't know many people so prefer the solo pursuits and TTs to team pursuits and mass starts where everyone has some sort of team tactic except for me!

Simply put - Favourite - Standing 500m TT
Least - Long scratch races or miss n outs with big fields.

Flatballer 06-22-13 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanceMac (Post 15771480)
Scratch and Points are like Texas Hold'em. Most of the other (mass start) stuff is like No Peek Baseball in a bad home game. I'm okay with Miss-n-Out to break up the Scratch/Points... but it doesn't matter what that third event is, I never look forward to it like I do with Scratch/Points. Keirin is always a kick, but tough to squeeze that into most omniums.

Yeah, I wish our track did more scratch and points. Miss and out I like because it's fun, exciting to watch, I'm decent at it, and it's a legit event that's competed in the Olympics. All the other crap, they could get rid of. Especially the wheel race, that thing is stupid.

TrackMonkey7 06-22-13 09:47 PM

I voted for Miss and Out as both least and most favorite because I usually place well when racing them, but I'm also in all kinds of pain at the end.

Flatballer 06-23-13 12:56 PM

Favorites -
Scratch 65%
Miss and Out 50%
Points and Keiren 40%
Match Sprint 30%

Least Favorite:
Snowball, Win and out, unknown distance 30%
Wheel, points, tempo, point a lap 25%


The least favorite is kind of all over the map. Split scratch is nobody's favorite or least favorite, it just is. Win and out had 0% favorite, and 30% least favorite. Nobody likes that stupid thing.

Racer Ex 06-23-13 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kayce (Post 15771400)
Speeking from the organizer side. The "break up the boredom stuff" is the best for training series for a few reasons. It allows for the most groups to run easily a night, big fields can be accommodated, they offer a lot of learning opportunities, and they are predictable in length.

Time trials and match sprints take a lot of time, and 95% of the racers are just hanging out while they happen. That is why they are not done on special nights, and not very often. Training series are all about getting the most people on the track for the longest time.

Yep. But Keiran, Madison, and match sprints aren't standard weeknight fare at most places, and generally the Keiran is limited to "A" riders and a limited field. Just sayin as far as the poll goes.

I have no idea what several of those things are. But the unknown distance is the lamest of the ones I know anything about.

carleton 06-23-13 08:26 PM

My favorite events are those under 60s. That's pretty much it :D

David Broon 06-24-13 09:34 PM

I'll preface this with the fact that I pretty much suck at everything. That said, I bias towards the two opposite ends of the spectrum for different reasons. I suck least at pursuits. I can normally hold my own against some pretty good guys. However, I don't "Like it". It's awful, but I enjoy the feeling of when it's done. My favorite thing to ride are match sprints, because I get to really over-think everything, and ti's much more enjoyable to me.

Does that make sense?

bitingduck 06-25-13 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer Ex (Post 15769145)
Kilo. Pursuit. Team pursuit. That's where the blood comes.

spoken like a time trialist. There's nobody to mess with in those, and no draft (except TP, and your teammates get mad if you mess with them).

Madison (not really a weekly filler race) and Miss & Out (all about position, position, position - makes you better at everything else).


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