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Old 02-26-05, 04:42 PM   #1
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Okay trackies
I am getting a set of tubular wheels built (to Promax 36h hubs) for the velo this year. I have spoken to a few trusted LBS-ers and a few Velo-istas and found no solid answer on rims. So far, Araya Gold Stars (?) and Mavic Reflex seem to be the prefered. I was also eyeing the Sun M19A-II Aero as a possibility. I am pretty sure the Aero rim might not be important as wind isn't that huge a factor (from my discussions). So now I ask all of you:

Do you ride tubular rims at the velo (Ceya - I know you ride them on the street too...freak! )?
Which ones do you ride?
Why do you prefer them?

I might just go with the Reflex - also checked out the Mach 2s, but wanted to ask here first. Thanks!
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Thank you , Thank you..

I still have the old GP4 rims and GEL 280s from Mavic. I also have SUN MISTRAL RIMS also got off the old Cannondale track from the early 90s. NO I DON'T RIDE CANNONDALE TRACK!!

Araya makes good rims! TUBIES the way to go!!!
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I am having a track wheelset built up now. The LBS owner showed me cutaway pieces of rims that showed spoke failure. He convinced me to go with Velocity Escape tubular. It has a braking surface, so is not track specific, but is nice and light. I am also going with the Tufo S3 Lite tires because I ride on either a local bike trail or at the velodrome with this bike.
I can add a front brake when I get old...
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Okay -
I just plunked down $30/rim for some Mavic Mach 2 36h rims. I'll let you all know how they do.
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Is it "legal" to use clincher tires at Northbrook?

165 - who's doing the wheel build?
and can I try them when they're done?
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I wouldn't use clinchers - if you flat, they will more than likely roll/come off. not a good thing. tubulars will more than likely stay on the rim preventing the tire from rolling off, at least until you can slow down
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i dunno, i think using clinchers on the track for training are prolly ok, especially if you're just starting out and want to find out what it's all about.

kinda harsh to have to buy new wheels just to get onna track.
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hmmm... I wonder if its possible to rent just
a rear wheel. I'd hate to roll a tire like Beloki.

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hmmm... I wonder if its possible to rent just
a rear wheel. I'd hate to roll a tire like Beloki.

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i'd rather roll a rear than a front.

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what tires are you considering? i would suggest conti sprinters or tufos s3's. i just put a s3 lite 125 on my front track wheel and it is really nice, grippy and LIGHT!!
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i'd rather roll a rear than a front.

165,
what tires are you considering? i would suggest conti sprinters or tufos s3's. i just put a s3 lite 125 on my front track wheel and it is really nice, grippy and LIGHT!!
where'd you score that?
I went the cheap/effective route for now. no reason to drop top dollar on everything (just the frame...)
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cheap/effective: conti sprinters or vredestein fortezza's (i love the clinchers for the road, but i am sure the tubulars would be great on the track).

my roommate has raced track for a few years and has a box of slightly to well used tubulars. he's also a tufos dealer. he gave me a set of very slightly used s3's. they're yellow and look hot on my celeste pista. however, i've been too lazy to put the rear on... i just installed the front as my old sprinter was shot. since the track isn't open for a few more months, i've only ridden the s3 on the road... but man alive, that thing is grippy and tracks super well. i'm planning on getting some mavic ellipses (clinchers) that i am thinking about using on the track with some of those tufos tubular clinchers. i sort of want to sell my tubular track wheelset.
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I run either Gel330s or GP4s on the road all the time.
I'm building a set of Campy Victory Strada's.
Tires are Conti Sprinters, but I have a set of Tufo
Elite Roads stretching for my next build.
[165] check out Business cycles specials he is
selling Deda Tre tubulars. I've heard some good
things about them but haven't seem them yet.
When you get ready for some serious track tires
get Dugast Silks, or try to find Clement Green label
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Very cool! Lotek settin' up the HiTek!
Will do and thanks for the input.
One last question:
anyone run rims w/o eyelets and use washers instead?
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yes.
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durability in comparison to eyeleted rims, smart aleck?
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durability in comparison to eyeleted rims, smart aleck?
Mm. You can keep your leck to yerself buddy.

But as far as the rims... From a strength and weight stand point- I like the washers, honestly. They do take a little more time to build with and the options aren't there like they used to be... But if you think of the rim with the spoke holes drilled through- the holes have to be drilled bigger to fit the eyelets in place. Without eyelets- you're having less material removed from the rim. Most rims at the track will not have eyelets or washers and that works for most people... But I know how big you guys in the 'burbs can get- might as well build up the wheels with as much strength as possible But seriously- I don't think it's a big concern... But I'd also say "go for it" if you want it.
As far as tires... Silks might be overkill. Conti. Sprinters are good if you want some tires that will last for many years, you could also take them on the road. Conti Tempo and Tufo S3 Pros are my favorites for the local asphalt tracks. I usually keep a variety of the Tufos in stock (as well as a smathering of others) if you want to see them in person. Hell- lets hook up at the Northbrook velodrome some weekend in the near future... I'll bring some wheels and we can play around on the pavement a bit...
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sounds good to me!
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In case you are looking for a primo rim
Baron at Renaissance Cycles had Mavic SSC rims
for sale, 32 hole (and 36 I believe) at about $120 a
pair. In kewl electric blue!
HiTek? hardly.
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Excellent! I'll bring cookies

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