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Old 07-24-13, 09:41 AM   #1
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I Won My First "National Level" (NTC) - Elite Men's - Sprint Title


Videos in reverse chronologic order of actual occurrence:

(Finals PM Session)
Sprint 1 - Match Sprint Finals Round 1
Sprint 2 - Match Sprint Finals Round 2

(Early AM Qualifiers Session)
Sprint 3 - Match Sprint Semi Finals
Sprint 4 - Match Sprint Quarter Finals

Additional information can be found in the video description itself.

In round 2 of the finals apparently my bike went airborne as I threw it to the line:





Edit: I dislike that the generic answer people give for training is "get a coach". That doesn't help people who can't afford it yet. So instead of coaching, i've made up my own plans and have everyday documented for the past year on Strava. It may or may not help others and it may very well not be the correct way to train, but I think track needs a lot more public resources available for the everyday enthusiast who wants to put a leg in the door.

www.strava.com/athletes/xengravity

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Old 07-24-13, 10:01 AM   #2
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Congrats!!

I'm in a cafe with spotty internet so I cannot see the video till later.

A few questions:

- Can you post qualifying times for the event?
- You can totally coach yourself for sprint training...provided you do a lot of research.
- You can pay for general advice, meaning: Pay a coach a modest fee for an seasonal/annual plan instead of a monthly fee for weekly plans. Basically give a guy $200 and he'll paint a program in broad strokes as opposed to telling you what to do every day of the week.
- Spend your money racing at the level at which you want to race.
- Join a team with people who have the info you need. They will guide/coach you as part of the relationship.
- Barter. Example: Trade a website for 3 months of coaching.

I had elite/world level coaching for 2 seasons and coached myself for 2 seasons. The latter 2 seasons I did better than the first two. It was natural progression, nothing against the coaches. But, once you have the info, you have the info. If you understand the methodology, you can apply it to yourself. I was a research nerd. NERD.
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Incredible. Well done.
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Thanks. I'm looking for names, too Need to see who was in the field besides Mansker.
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Found it: http://velodrome.org/mva/content/201...ap-and-results

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I feel as if there is an "olympic-lull" and some of the fast guys took a break. So i'd say the "win" was circumstantial at best and a lot of it was contributed to luck but it was my first "national-caliber" race and I feel ok with the outcome.
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That's not a bad field, and not many in the US can say that they have beaten Mansker...especially in a major event. I hope that he's on the next Olympic team. Not sure why he didn't get picked last time.
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I feel as if there is an "olympic-lull" and some of the fast guys took a break. So i'd say the "win" was circumstantial at best and a lot of it was contributed to luck but it was my first "national-caliber" race and I feel ok with the outcome.
Don't be too hard on yourself. A good win is a good win. Even if the field were stacked, you would have likely made it deep into the rounds and let them know that you are not to be taken lightly.

Some words of advice from a former world-level elite road and track racer (and now a world-level coach), when I asked him about how to get the most out of coaching myself: Race as much as you can.

I would suggest that you do every event that pits you against elite talent that you can. Go to Elite nationals, even if you don't expect to do well. You'll get to learn what it takes to be there and get a taste of the speed.
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That's not a bad field, and not many in the US can say that they have beaten Mansker...especially in a major event. I hope that he's on the next Olympic team. Not sure why he didn't get picked last time.
Me too, i've been rooting for him for awhile.

To my understanding, Watkins was simply the faster man and making more gains quicker right before the Olympics and the team sprint squad simply didn't measure up to world level times so they only sent a single guy out there.

I'm hoping that changes for 2016.
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Congratulations xengravity!
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Beating Shanks isn't too bad at all, either. One of the fastest canucks out there.
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Another video with a better vantage point was just posted:

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Definitely going to stalk your strava for training ideas.

EDIT: My gf is from Mercer Island. We were out there last year, and it was so damn beautiful.
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