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brawlo 10-16-13 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainInAJar (Post 16163811)
Selle SMP is worth every penny.

On my road bike, I love my composit. On the track it was a nightmare. I move around too much and it just didn't suit me for the track. I'm trying out an ISM Adamo atm and it's a winner so far, but we're about to head into race season, so I'll see how it goes in longer term anger.

Baby Puke 10-16-13 06:36 PM

Hey Quinn,

Would love to have been there! Life in the way again, grad school, toddler, wife, you know the drill. Damn life... . Hope to do more racing next year.

I have mine leveled from front to back, so shouldn't be a UCI issue. I find it pretty comfortable, actually. Used to ride a Regal, but now it seems too wide all over. I even use the Kashima on a track bike I ride on the road, and I'm on it for quite a while sometimes.

[This next bit is not directed at you, Quinn] Crotchety old man alert: Honestly, sometimes I feel like people go too far with nit-picking how the bike fits. Your body is flexible and adaptable. When I was a young roadie, I agonized over bike fit-- seat, cleat position, saddle set-back, bar width-- you name it, I was obsessed about it. I always used Time pedals back then as I had a trick knee and was sure I needed "float".

Well when I started doing track **** in Jpn, they had a lot of rules about the bikes. You had to use old fashioned clips and straps at the club I started with. "What about my precious float?", I whimpered. Then somebody told me, "if you sit on the bike right, and pedal it right, your body will adapt and it will work". I was told how to sit on the bike and pedal right. You know what? It worked. And I have not had any knee issues. And yes, I do most of my track-specific training on a track bike on the road with fixed gear and strapped in. 80ish" gear mostly.

I see a lot of people constantly changing their set-up and buying new crap (including whole new bikes!) all the time. This may not work for everyone, but I kind of think you should just set it up close enough and forget it. Just ride the bike and train to get faster.

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Originally Posted by Quinn8it (Post 16166320)
I hated the Kashimax! But I used to ride a similar shaped saddle, the San Marco Concor.

Both those saddles have a similar issue with the UCI/USAC interpretation of the definition of a "level saddle". Most people level the Kashimax and the Concor on the long nose section, leaving the rear as an up-slope. At recent National's and Worlds they were placing the level across the entire length of the saddle- which results in a slight rise of the nose section..
Its all good if that's how you ride the saddle... but can be a real issue if uou find yourself changing saddle position at bike check..



Totally Off Topic:
Whats up Baby Puke??? Missed you at E-Nats this year! Me and Dixie-Flyer were holding it down for the old men!!


JMR 10-16-13 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brawlo (Post 16166765)
On my road bike, I love my composit. On the track it was a nightmare. I move around too much and it just didn't suit me for the track. I'm trying out an ISM Adamo atm and it's a winner so far, but we're about to head into race season, so I'll see how it goes in longer term anger.

I have been thinking about trying an Adamo (mainly for Kilo), which version have you got Brawlo? There seems to be heaps of different ones on the website, but not sure how different they really are...

JMR

brawlo 10-16-13 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JMR (Post 16167034)
I have been thinking about trying an Adamo (mainly for Kilo), which version have you got Brawlo? There seems to be heaps of different ones on the website, but not sure how different they really are...

JMR

Originally I got a Racing II to put on my old track bike come fixie. It was good when thrashing out a sprint, but we've recently been doing 1hr plus paceline riding around our track and it was really uncomfortable. So I've moved that over to my track bike now. It's replacing a Selle Italia Trans Am Max that originally came on my first road bike. I recently got a 20% extra off coupon from PBK and so got a Road version to put on the fixed for less than a second hand one I was chasing on fleabay. So far it is really good for extended periods. Both saddles are really comfortable when forward and low down in the drops, the Road version is just a lot more comfortable when sitting up on the hoods. I can see why the tri guys like them.

I'm about to descend into the world of aero bars this season, so I will see how that goes. I am planning on using the fixie for our club road TT races to work out positioning for track TT stuff. It's going to be a real test of the relationship between myself and the ISM.

Hida Yanra 10-18-13 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainInAJar (Post 16163811)
Selle SMP is worth every penny.

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Originally Posted by wens (Post 16163885)
Switched to the phenom and so far so good.

SMPs are STELLAR, unless you need to be UCI legal, I have yet to see a way to set them up per UCI 'level seat regs'. I loved mine, but had to switch for this last year.

Also, I moved to a Phenom, extra amazing.
By the end of the Coll Nats points race my Phenom was *literally killing me*, but I hadn't ever done a track race of that length before. When I have done roller sessions before with 45'-1h race-style efforts it gets uncomfortable, but never as bad it did in that race. So, I have some figuring-out to do before next season.

Hida Yanra 10-18-13 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by brawlo (Post 16167113)
ISM.

I use one for all my riding in the pursuit bars - great stuff.

DMC707 11-20-13 11:11 PM

Didn't read every post in the thread, but for my money, it is hard to beat the old Turbo saddle for a general purpose, durable saddle ---- I can squash a Ti railed saddle in one ride , but the Turbo saddle will last a year of hard use (or 10 years on a track bike when you only see the track a few times a year)

I buy NOS and gently used 20+ year old Turbos pretty frequently on ebay --- The sit-bone measurement seems to be pretty lose to a Flite saddle, but they seem much much more comfy (and durable)

taras0000 11-20-13 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Puke (Post 16165749)
Eh, you softies should try a Kashimax!

They actually work for me, somehow.

Ass Hatchets!


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