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queerpunk 10-21-13 12:34 PM

Any 6-Day fans?
 
I started getting into 6-Day Racing after learning how to race a proper Madison... now I follow 'em, have raced against a handful of Euro 6-day racers brought to the US for prestige, and watch livestreams.

News: https://www.facebook.com/6DayRacing
Zesdaagse Amsterdam going on right now, livestreaming: http://www.sixdayracing.com/video/li...terdam-six-day

The Amsterdam Six livestream even has English commentating, so, it's got that going for it.

Enjoy!

zizou 10-21-13 02:04 PM

Nice!

Would love to go and watch something like this one day, have heard the atmosphere can be great

loverrellik 10-21-13 02:18 PM

There goes my work efficiency for the rest of the day.

Thanks for the info.

What is the race called where every rider has a motopacer?

carleton 10-21-13 04:08 PM

I don't know the top athletes, but it's amazing to watch.

queerpunk 10-22-13 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by loverrellik (Post 16179120)
There goes my work efficiency for the rest of the day.

Thanks for the info.

What is the race called where every rider has a motopacer?

derny racing. along with sprints, they're usually something of a sideshow to the main events.

Brian Ratliff 10-22-13 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by loverrellik (Post 16179120)
There goes my work efficiency for the rest of the day.
...

rest of the week more like...

This is awesome!

botto 10-24-13 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by carleton (Post 16179449)
I don't know the top athletes, but it's amazing to watch.

ironically enough, the people that are there don't do much watching.

carleton 10-24-13 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by botto (Post 16187909)
ironically enough, the people that are there don't do much watching.

Ha. Yeah, I do see quite a bit of drinking and partying going on.

botto 10-24-13 12:44 PM

old pics from a past zes daagse.

http://www.myshavedlegs.com/2007/10/...t-six-day.html

carleton 10-24-13 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by botto (Post 16188895)

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To their credit, almost all of them put up with our well lubricated antics.
Hahaha! Sounds like fun.

Has anyone in the states tried to create a 6-Day type of vibe at an event? I know Trexlertown sells beer for their Friday Night series in the summer. But, it seems to be more of a Minor League Baseball Game type of environment than a party.

kyle! 10-24-13 04:16 PM

They just had one up in LA a couple weeks ago. I heard it was pretty rad.

bitingduck 10-24-13 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle! (Post 16189565)
They just had one up in LA a couple weeks ago. I heard it was pretty rad.

They just did 3 days, rather than a full 6. Turnout was light, but there wasn't any advertising outside the bike community. It was a pretty good show, and would have been better with more spectators-- the basic ingredients were there. Word is that they do plan to do it again next year.

kyle! 10-24-13 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bitingduck (Post 16190201)
They just did 3 days, rather than a full 6. Turnout was light, but there wasn't any advertising outside the bike community. It was a pretty good show, and would have been better with more spectators-- the basic ingredients were there. Word is that they do plan to do it again next year.

Yeah I only heard about by word of mouth as I'm not on Facebook or anything. I would've gone with more notice. Hopefully their plans for next year work out!

Kayce 10-24-13 09:22 PM

A question about the LA 3 day. They did something along the lines of 7 5 lap scratches in a row with no breaks, but there were rider exchances. Does any one know how the scoring worked in the point totals, and what were the rules on the exchanges? Was each scratch given the 10, 8, etc. as per the UCI 6day rules?

bitingduck 10-24-13 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kayce (Post 16190365)
A question about the LA 3 day. They did something along the lines of 7 5 lap scratches in a row with no breaks, but there were rider exchances. Does any one know how the scoring worked in the point totals, and what were the rules on the exchanges? Was each scratch given the 10, 8, etc. as per the UCI 6day rules?

I don't know how the scoring worked, but I can check into it. For the exchanges they would just send the replacement rider up, and do a very lazy exchange before they got back up to speed.

Kayce 10-25-13 10:46 AM

What were the rules on the lazy exchange? Could it be done at any point, was their a neutral lap?

bitingduck 10-26-13 02:11 PM

They didn't announce anything about rules on it, but it looked like they ran a couple neutral laps to regroup. They played a little fast and loose with rules to keep things rolling and entertaining. E.g. In the Keirins there was *way* more contact than you can pull in a UCI race these days, but still well controlled.

Hida Yanra 10-26-13 11:57 PM

Well, it was a show of force to finish off the Amsterdaam 6 - the last madison was textbook in several ways.

Over in Grenoble that one guy can still ride a track bike pretty fast,
Also, Boudat looks to be a name for the future between the Grenoble result and the just-past Euro champs, great form for the young guy recently.

Kayce 10-27-13 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bitingduck (Post 16194198)
They didn't announce anything about rules on it, but it looked like they ran a couple neutral laps to regroup. They played a little fast and loose with rules to keep things rolling and entertaining. E.g. In the Keirins there was *way* more contact than you can pull in a UCI race these days, but still well controlled.

Thank you for the insight. Penrose may be doing something silly, and I am trying to figure out some of the rules used in six days. But since they are a good part show, rules don't always exist. But I did find out that the UCI has very strict rules on the clothes a motorpacer can wear.

bitingduck 10-27-13 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kayce (Post 16197413)
Thank you for the insight. Penrose may be doing something silly, and I am trying to figure out some of the rules used in six days. But since they are a good part show, rules don't always exist. But I did find out that the UCI has very strict rules on the clothes a motorpacer can wear.

If they didn't, they'd all be wearing plywood sheets on their backs. But there's no rules on how much you can feed them.

bitingduck 10-28-13 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kayce (Post 16190365)
A question about the LA 3 day. They did something along the lines of 7 5 lap scratches in a row with no breaks, but there were rider exchances. Does any one know how the scoring worked in the point totals, and what were the rules on the exchanges? Was each scratch given the 10, 8, etc. as per the UCI 6day rules?

I asked and here's the answer I got (verbatim) from one of the scorers:
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1)I don't have it front of me now, buy IIRC the points at the end of each chase were five deep and varied from night to night from things like 11-9-7-5-4 the first two nights to 15-12-10-8-6 on the final night.

2)There were no rules regarding exchanges in the chases.

3)During the point Sprints that preceded each chase(scratch), they would neutralize the field until they regrouped, and only then restart the count down of laps (it was just regroup and restart).


queerpunk 10-28-13 09:16 PM

btw, links to full youtube replays (with announcing) of the amsterdam six:
http://www.6dayracing.ca/reports/ams...rdam_2013.html


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