rkwaki

Hey...
Can I come play in this forum?
Apparently my weight lifting experience matched to my Cat 1 license proves nothing...

Hermes

Can you barbecue outdoors? If yes enter, if no enter?

Minion1

Seated Good mornings? (insert confused emoticon)

Are they similar to box squats, I'm kinda struggling to see how they'd work. I've done good mornings in the past, and they seemed (to me) to rely on the stretch reflex of the hammies, which would be lessened by sitting? It might just have been that I was really inflexible and just needed to stretch more.

carleton

Come on in, make yourself at home, and grab a drink...

Yeah, that was new to me too. I had to google it:

Aleksey Lovchev (RUS)



Quinn, is it easy to get into position? Seems awkward with heavy weights.

Owen21

i do seated GM's off a bench press set up. A little squat to get it off, and back on. Pretty easy just dont go to far back and fall off the bench lol

carleton

So, I lifted at Coffee's Gym today and Mr. Coffee was there. He offered me LOTS of tips. This guy has coached Olympians, so when he speaks, I say, "Yes, sir." and start moving.

He coached me for 2 hours and turned my program on its ear.

Watching him coach a young man and young woman was amazing and enlightening. The way he set reps and weight was by feel...or I guess him seeing how fast (or not fast) they moved the weights. From there he knew what they could handle. They totally pushed their limits for the day, and never missed a rep. Amazing.

Oh, and they did squats at the end of the workout...as a supplemental lift. Wow. That's blasphemy in some circles.

I joined the gym.

On the way out, one of the other coaches said to me, "You should compete as a Masters Powerlifter." with a straight face. Oh snap. Not sure wat do now.

Quinn8it

Sounds awesome Carleton!

I highly recommend you check out Powerlifting!
its actually a great compliment to Track Sprinting. I tend to do a meet or two in the offseason, and it's a good motivator to really push the weights. I actually don't change my weight program at all from what I do for cycling- and I lift way more on meet week than most power lifters do- since I will be lifting and riding again the following Monday.

The Powerlifting community is far more supportive than the cycling community. Winning at a meet is not that important to most people. Most people go in to meets with single lift goals, total goals, hit all 9lifts, and some just want to get through it.
Ive seen gyms full of lifters and spectators go nuts supporting a lifter who was trying to hit a lift that was extreme for them, despite the fact that they were the last placed lifter of the class.

As For Masters Vs Elites... It doesn't really matter.
One year at The USAPL Ca State Championships I lost the Masters State title by a few pounds, with a total that would of won the Elite Title, if I had just paid the extra $20 to be scored in both... The guy that beat me in the Masters 40+ was 45yr old, so both of us were setting USAPL age group State Records along the way- since those are in 5yr blocks.

I suggest you just sign up for a meet- don't stress too much about how you will do. Don't stress about your weight class- just show up, open with your current 5-rep weights and play the rest by ear..

Its really a lot of fun

carleton

Thanks, Quinn!

We'll see how it goes

Baby Puke

Do it!!

Quinn8it

Start here:
USAPL Georgia - USA Powerlifting Resources for Georgia

usapl is not the only Clean Federation, but it's likely the Strictest and therefor the cleanest...
USPA is another good fed.

look up some results in your age/weight class from meets in your area. I bet you find you are well inside what's being done.

slindell

There is at least one person who has won master national titles in powerlifting and sprints in the same year so it can work.

carleton

Hahahaha!

I looked at the results from a regional event and you are right! I've hit some of those numbers before for sure. I'm getting excited about this.

gl98115

True. So true.

misterwaterfall

Just looked up local meets on plwatch thanks to you lot. Likely won't do one anytime soon but they're on the radar.

Owen21

Carleton, what the guy said at your gym is pretty exactly what i got taught in china and over here when i lifted to a more serious extent (wrist is injured so cant clean at the minute). Squats are supplemental as most people are far too strong for their technique so their energy and focus is best aimed towards the weightlifting movements. That said, in powerlifting, the squat is a main exercise as you know. So it depends which route you go down. Id say the squat was a main exercise for track cycling too. Looks like a nice gym, has it got a leg press lol?

Owen21

Also. Could anyone be so kind as to help me with a training programme (weight training)? Im confident in the gym and do all the usual exercises but struggle to construct a programme

carleton

Hahaha. Yes, there is a leg press machine, too!.

Asking for programming is a tough one. That is asking for coaching.

Owen21

Good

yeah you are right. I'll persevere

carleton

In the absence of a dedicated coach, any weight training program for athletes that focuses on legs (i.e. Athletics* Sprinter) will benefit you! The reason why there isn't a "perfect weight training program for trackies" is because no such thing exists. Just get strong and not-too-fat and you will be in good shape to race


*Athletics = Track & Field

bmontgomery87

+1

I had a blast when I did a PL meet a few years back. Getting back into heavy lifting and debating getting back on the platform.

Owen21

Okay thanks my cycling coach said he'll go through my weight training with me on thursday. I just need something enjoyable that'll prevent me from squatting EVERY time i go to the gym lol i did jump squats and paused squats recently which were fun though. and i love leg press, and single leg squats on a smith machine.

I hate bulgarian split squats and lunges..are they necessary?! And need calves be trained?

Quinn8it

i totally agree that a program needs to be athlete specific-
but in the absence of a coach I would use the Beginner program from Starting Strength. While it may not be the perfect program, it has been used extensively by track racers and it's pretty well accepted that it is a good level of Volume and Intensity to promote Sprint progress without a big danger of overtraining when combined with a full load of bike work.

As Far as canned programs go its pretty good..

And as usual- we are bike racers, not PowerLifters... Ok- not all of us

Velocirapture

Anyone have experience with pre-workout supplements, specifically those containing NO? either for weight training or for on the bike track training? And if so, what comments on the good, the bad and the ugly?? thanks

VanceMac

Found this article very interesting. And I interpreted it, perhaps with a bit of confirmation bias, as further support for Texas Method type variation.

carleton

Get hyped.