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Old 01-21-14, 05:25 PM   #26
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Then the challenge becomes finding a safe spot to do this, and Carlton I fully agree that this is not safe on just any ol' city street. You've got to scout and search for spots that will work, and this is not easy in some cases. San Francisco sucks in particular for this due to traffic congestion and hills (curse them).

Again, if you can be at the track twice a week or more, or are an enduro just get a nice road bike.
I actually do this already sometimes when I start up from a stoplight! Luckily, Minneapolis is pretty flat. There are many good places for this kind of thing up here. In particular, Portland Avenue is an absolutely straight one-way that runs from downtown through the city's entire south side to the southern city limits. It has a bike lane that is as wide as a car lane for most of the length of the road. Same with Park Avenue, which runs parallel to Portland and is the exact same except it just runs northbound towards downtown instead of southbound away from downtown. The blocks are long blocks too so you have ample time to stop after you get up to speed if one doesn't have a brake. There's been instances where i've hit literally every green light from downtown to the city limits and was able to cook along at ~35 mph (don't have a bike computer but was moving at the pace of car traffic in a 30MPH zone and had multiple people shout out their windows at me that I was "going like, 35, dude!") for a loooong time without having to stop. Good times
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The blocks are long blocks too so you have ample time to stop after you get up to speed if one doesn't have a brake. There's been instances where i've hit literally every green light from downtown to the city limits and was able to cook along at ~35 mph (don't have a bike computer but was moving at the pace of car traffic in a 30MPH zone and had multiple people shout out their windows at me that I was "going like, 35, dude!") for a loooong time without having to stop. Good times
Man, that is so dangerous.

This is the scary behavior that I mentioned in the previous post.
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Eryk, I do agree that that's getting kind of dangerous lol anyways we could hit up the Gateway trail ealry morning in the spring time that will have plenty of long stretches for sprinting. I live right by the trail and do early morning solo rides, have to be out on the trail by 7am at the latest otherwise the trail is congested with other cyclists and pedestrians.
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About the road bike:

Maybe put a freewheel on your street fixie and use it for road work till you can find an quality used road bike.

Others may feel differently.

Dude, we can't make this decision for you. If you think you'll get more practical use out of a road bike (like if you don't own a car) then focus on that.
I wasn't asking anyone to make a decision for me, I was just asking for advice and had a fair amount of follow up questions that resulted from the answers you all gave. Thanks for the bike recommendations, I wasn't aware that really specific frames are pretty much all carbon frames and start that high.
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Eryk, I do agree that that's getting kind of dangerous lol anyways we could hit up the Gateway trail ealry morning in the spring time that will have plenty of long stretches for sprinting. I live right by the trail and do early morning solo rides, have to be out on the trail by 7am at the latest otherwise the trail is congested with other cyclists and pedestrians.
Yeah I know, it's part of the fun for me; I don't do things like that often at all and never when i'm riding with other people. Still, i've never even come close to having to run a red light (because I DO NOT ever run red lights) or rear-ending something because I wasn't able to slow down or stop, I can be kind of a hesitant guy sometimes so if I didn't feel like I had at least some control over the situation I wouldn't have done it. Most (probably all) of them were done very late at night/early in the a.m. as well when there were very few cars on the road. And that sounds good man, i'll keep in touch!

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And one last question, anyone recommend any bicycle classifieds websites other than CL? Requiring a 60-62cm frame often doesn't leave me with many choices (or any sometimes, when I periodically check). On the plus side, when I DO find something while perusing it's often a great deal because they've had trouble finding a buyer...
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There's a FB group called Twin Cities Bicycle Trading Post. there's some stuff on mcf.net, too.
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I actually do this already sometimes when I start up from a stoplight! Luckily, Minneapolis is pretty flat. There are many good places for this kind of thing up here. In particular, Portland Avenue is an absolutely straight one-way that runs from downtown through the city's entire south side to the southern city limits. It has a bike lane that is as wide as a car lane for most of the length of the road. Same with Park Avenue, which runs parallel to Portland and is the exact same except it just runs northbound towards downtown instead of southbound away from downtown. The blocks are long blocks too so you have ample time to stop after you get up to speed if one doesn't have a brake. There's been instances where i've hit literally every green light from downtown to the city limits and was able to cook along at ~35 mph (don't have a bike computer but was moving at the pace of car traffic in a 30MPH zone and had multiple people shout out their windows at me that I was "going like, 35, dude!") for a loooong time without having to stop. Good times
Please, you need a brake. And to find a training stretch without intersections or parked cars. That is a usually a tall order.

Also, if you have left room for error in this kind of effort, you've not done it hard enough.
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Please, you need a brake. And to find a training stretch without intersections or parked cars. That is a usually a tall order.

Also, if you have left room for error in this kind of effort, you've not done it hard enough.
Yeah, I know this isn't the safest, like I mentioned above it's part of the fun for me. Also every time i've done this has been very late/early in the morning when there were very few cars on the roads. Still, I've been meaning to get one soon, I just need to figure out the proper reach front brake to use and to train myself to properly use one in a panic situation, since i've not used one on this bike yet. And that is a tall order considering most of the places here that would fit that description would be offroad trails which are always congested with pedestrians and other cyclists.
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There's a FB group called Twin Cities Bicycle Trading Post. there's some stuff on mcf.net, too.
Thanks for the resources!
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ETN have you ever been to the track?
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To watch but not to ride yet, I think i've mentioned that here before but not in this thread.
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To watch but not to ride yet, I think i've mentioned that here before but not in this thread.
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Yeah, I know this isn't the safest, like I mentioned above it's part of the fun for me. Also every time i've done this has been very late/early in the morning when there were very few cars on the roads. Still, I've been meaning to get one soon, I just need to figure out the proper reach front brake to use and to train myself to properly use one in a panic situation, since i've not used one on this bike yet. And that is a tall order considering most of the places here that would fit that description would be offroad trails which are always congested with pedestrians and other cyclists.
Red lights and turning cars are a lot easier to spot and slow down for than a cat or a kid darting into the road. not so fun when you kill one of those. Or yourself, clipping a stone or something in the road and you've got no option to brake.

do it at the track. Just as fun (probably more so), without being unnecessarily dangerous.
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And one last question, anyone recommend any bicycle classifieds websites other than CL? Requiring a 60-62cm frame often doesn't leave me with many choices (or any sometimes, when I periodically check). On the plus side, when I DO find something while perusing it's often a great deal because they've had trouble finding a buyer...
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re: "sprinter or enduro" - don't even worry about answering that question until you have two or three seasons under your belt.
I think if you have no interest in going for three hour road ride or really don't like strength work that determines which direction you should go if you're starting as an adult. If you're asking beginner questions here, you're racing track for fun. Might as well do what you enjoy to train.
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Also, if you have left room for error in this kind of effort, you've not done it hard enough.
Well said BP, +1
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